We Could Talk About The Weather

[WZ7U]

It got dark. WTF?

[PA5COR]

Pissing down rain, +8C windy...

[W5BRM]

Brilliant sun and 40f in SW Oklahoma. Got 3 days off and gonna be nice all 3! YAY

[VE7DCW]

Pissing down rain, +8C windy...
Carbon copy of what we here as well.Record setting rains of over 200 millimeters and still going as of 2 PM PST! All the stuff climate change pundits claimed would be happening! Eccch! :icon_sad:

[PA5COR]

November December and January all much too wet, January normally 60 mm now already at 110 mm rain tomorow some more...
Didn't have a decent winter in 7 years, just an extension ( wet) from autumn....till spring sets in.
I knew i should not have bought 4 season tires before winter.....my fault...:mrgreen:

[KD8TUT]

No idea what the weather is outside.

Here in the shack it's 73f, slight breeze, and no humidity to speak of.

[WZ7U]

I think the sun is out. The clouds seem brighter than usual.

[PA5COR]

the Sun? Whatametingy is that?, i remember vaguely some shiny disk on the sky, but that might just be my imagination...

[WZ7U]

If the light is continuous, it is the sun. IF it flashes then dissipates, something is really really wrong. Look for substantial cover.

[KG4CGC]

So yeah, approaching 21 straight days of rain. Not all day every day but mostly on and off all day.
Looking at another 7 to 10 days of more of the same.

[PA5COR]

We just experience the hottest May month in 300 years, 28 - 31 C sunny, 16 summer days in a row ( 25 C or above sunny) had all of 24 MM rain, normally 69 mm....
I just blame my stupid buying of 4 season tires for it...:squint:
Next 14 days bit more of the same....dang.

[KD8TUT]

I'm up late due to discomfort form sunburn. Had a great day. Storms inbound. Genny ready. As soon at the storm passes I'm bringing the radio up for some fun :)

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[n2ize]

A couple weeks ago we had a fast moving tight line of thunderstorms stretching from Maine to Maryland. It formed a bow shape on the radar map which is indicative of a derecho. It was also fast moving blazing eastward at about 65+ mph. True to form it was a primarily a wind event causing widespread damage along the entire line. Some places reallly got cobbered bad, other areas were spared somewhat.

[N8YX]

8AM and it was already too hot and muggy to keep working outside. I'd gotten up early to do a bit of work on one of my motorcycles and as soon as the sun peeked over the house, the fun was over.

Counter intuitive, though, are those late evening bicycle rides where the mercury is in the high 80s and above. It's actually cooler while in motion, regardless of the level of physical activity. Gatorade and similar electrolyte replenishments are your friends.

[suddenseer]

I would like to see 6 days without rain. I am getting out of Ohiya, headed south as soon as this house is sold. I am just going to have to hire help. I passed my physical/occupational therapies this week. I should be good to go. I am allowed to drive for an hour this week.

[KG4CGC]

Got up at 5:30 am today. It was cloudy. Headed out on the bike at 7:15 am and it was still cloudy but the sun was peaking through.
Got about mid 80's in the morning around 10 am but at 7:50 am I arrived at Michelin NA headquarters for Cars & Coffee.
Little by little the sun was peaking through more until it held its own against the clouds, poking holes through nature's lightbox.

[PA5COR]

Cloudy and cool, 18 C rest of the week better sunny and 25 C +.
After the hot dry sunny May we experience a drought here, 26 mm rain this month from normal 66 mm, last month we had even less.
Farmers complaining, but that seems normal, to dry to hot to wet etc etc..

[KD8TUT]

It's been water world here since field day... according to the radar it might be over.

I hope so- it's so humid!

[PA5COR]

This years shortage in rain is 150 mm ( 6 inches for you guys) till now and the next 14 days no rain expected, more warm sunny weather.
Just cut the grass on the front lawn, still green, but that is because i never water it, so the roots are quite deep, that will tach the grass not to become "lazy", dig for water ;)

[KG4CGC]

:sadface: I have lazy grass.

[WZ7U]

What? It won't cut itself?

[KG4CGC]

You're thinking about ...

[KG4CGC]

emo grass

[WZ7U]

:rotflol: :naughty:

[PA5COR]

Nope, still sprouting the old fashion grass that needs cutting by the owner....


What? It won't cut itself?

[n2ize]

It's blazing hot here. I hate this hot weather I hate summer. Today is supposed to be even hotter than yesterday. I would gladly take dark rainy weather every day for the rest of the summer as long as it would be cool outside. Summer sux.

[WZ7U]

It's raining here

[N8YX]

I put up a flat-top antenna for an SWL protege of mine yesterday...during peak afternoon heating.

It was feckin' brutal out.

[KG4CGC]

For nearly 2 months straight this pattern has held up and has been cramping my style.
Afternoon thunderstorms that leave behind lingering clouds throughout the night. In the past these things usually came and went. Just dumped their load and cleared out making the night sky viewable. I haven't been able to get a nice clear night for some photographic purposes at all and we're already into JULY!
This has also been the wettest June on record for the SE afaict. I do remember 2012 being hotter and I recently reviewed the pics I took of my phone saying it was 109. Now I understand this year it is 109 in the NE and MW. Chalk this up as the hottest and wettest June ever.

Today it's supposed to be relatively cool at 86º but we just had a shiftload rain, again, last night and it's moist outside. I mean not only is the ground moist, the air is moist and everything you touch is sticky from moisture.

In related news, I found a shortcut to the Blue Ridge Parkway back in May that includes a pretty dark spot on the light pollution map for the eastern half of the United States.

[PA5COR]

9th week, same weather forecast, sunny, 25 C to 30 C farmers complaining for their crops drying out...

[WZ7U]

Still rainin, still rainin, still rainin... still dreamin


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHBU1xzh9jE

[KD8TUT]

It's 102 heat index, it's sunny out, and we're deploying an antenna.... HIT IT!

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[N8YX]

It's 102 heat index, it's sunny out, and we're deploying an antenna.... HIT IT!

Did that Sunday in the CBus area for a SWL friend.

I have no idea how much water I put down but it was a lot.

[KD8TUT]

Did that Sunday in the CBus area for a SWL friend.

I have no idea how much water I put down but it was a lot.

I'm watering up now for second shift... got some sunburn already. Going for the flappy hat.

[KG4CGC]

Water comment: When you sweat this much you completely forget about your prostate.

[WZ7U]

Sun came out today, with a vengeance.

[KG4CGC]

It's been anywhere from 80 to 96º for the last 3 months with afternoon/evening thundershowers ... for the last 3 and a half months.

[PA5COR]

May, June, July shortage of rain 300 mm or one foot.
Crops withering, farmers not happy, only the grape growers look for a top wine year here...
30-35 C here sunny like the last 2 months and no improvement for the next 14 days.
We passed 1976 as most dry and suny year.
Most of Europe the same.
So much for a "tempered"climate here....;)

[koØm]

Sun came out today, with a vengeance.

I had family move to the west coast (San Fran) from here in, "The Upper South" back in the late 60's, they noted the temperate climate and, the lack of the seasonal transitions that they were used to here. Seems that the weather patterns have changed out there.

Also, I have noticed a change in the local weather patterns compared to 30 years ago. As a child, I remember frigid below zero weather in February, rainy warm springs through May, Summer heat peaking in August and, a Fall where you saw the color transition of trees from green to fall colors.

Now-a-days, we have mild winters that extend into April; "Spring" happens sometimes May and, the hottest days of Summer are shifted to June with the Solstice. Hot weather lingers on well in Autumn; the leaves don't change color in a spectacular show, they just turn brown almost overnight and fall to the ground.

Not complaining about milder winters or longer summers, just noting the absence in the traditional seasonal transitions in the Ohio Valley.

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[PA5COR]

Yay, got all of 3 mm rain yesterday, that evaporated immediately since the temp was still 35C...
After that things cooled down a bit to a balmy 30 C and in the night 19 C so we could cool down the houses.....
Next 14 days sunny, no rain, 26 to 31 C...

[VE7DCW]

It was 35 degrees C today.....been that way more or less for the last month.We have had wildfire smoke in the air from the various fires burning around in the interior of the province for the last 4 days.This is the third summer in a row that we have put up with wildfire smoke! Climate Change.....the sign of things to come! :icon_sad:

[PA5COR]

After a small dip from 38+C to "just 25 C "we return to the summer schedule 27 - 31 C, no rain, so i can park my bike in the tears in the ground from the drought.
For the next 14 days no rain expected as well, just sunny dry weather.
Much of the Eu the same harvests drying out in the fields, so expect prices for food to become a lot higher.
Only the grapes and whine will have a bumper year....:mrgreen::snicker:

[W5BRM]

https://www.reddit.com/r/weather/comments/92ylmy/cheyenne_hailstorm_part_2_7292018/?utm_source=reddit-android

https://www.reddit.com/r/weather/comments/92ydfz/hail_storm_with_marble_sized_hail_cheyenne_wy/?utm_source=reddit-android
Went through this yesterday.

[PA5COR]

That is some hail... no damage? cars dented and all that...
Just had 3.8 mm rain, monthly total now 4.8 mm.... about 63 mm short.

[KG4CGC]

80º (26.67º C) lots of rain. Seems to be a theme. Rest of the week, mid 70's and 80's with more and more rain.
Last couple of weeks, when it rains and the wind kicks in some trees have been falling over.

[suddenseer]

I have been enjoying near perfect wx for several weeks. Highs 70's-80. Lows 60's Rain 2-3 days a week, no water shortages here. The nicest wx I have experienced in all my remembering years!!!

[KG4CGC]

What can I sayn? Moar rain.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qVPNONdF58

[W5BRM]

That is some hail... no damage? cars dented and all that...
Just had 3.8 mm rain, monthly total now 4.8 mm.... about 63 mm short.

The white car in the 1st vid had minor dings but no broken glass or anything. Local news didn't have any reports of serious damage. The local weather radio was reporting a tornado on the ground out in farm country but nothing got damaged so far as I know. Hail came down for about 25 mins or so.

[PA5COR]

I expected more damage from those hailstones...not seen those here for decades. Temps simmer on here 30-36 C, no end in sight.
Portugal and Spain expecting 48 C +........no temps for a white bloke like me.
At least no need to cut the grass now...it is all brown and dead.

[KD8TUT]

Got an immense line of thunderstorms coming in. Just shut down the radio stuff and disconnected the antennas.

Gonna be a fun ride!!!!

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[KG4CGC]

The rain has demodulated a bit for almost 2 weeks.

[n2ize]

To all you folks in the Carolina's and along the Southeast and mid-Atlantic coast please be careful. This hurricane looks as it is going to be pretty intense as it eventually (and very likely) makes landfall. I am anticipating that this will noticeably affect the weather all up and down the coast to one degree or another. But right now it looks like the Carolina's and Virginia are going to see the worst of it. Again, please be careful and be safe.

[PA5COR]

^ I'll support that, take it seriously...

[KG4CGC]

Predictive models are putting SC back on as a direct target. Then curling south before being pushed back out and traveling up the coast.

[N8YX]

This thing's fixing to get really messy.

Be safe, all.

[n2ize]

Predictive models are putting SC back on as a direct target. Then curling south before being pushed back out and traveling up the coast.

That's not good. That will just make it's devastation more widespread. The two best courses are 1) It stays out at sea and eventually diminishes as it moves northeast. 2) It makes landfall and rapidly downgrades, minimizing damage.

[KG4CGC]

Model changed again. They keep dropping it further south. We'll see.

[n2ize]

Model changed again. They keep dropping it further south. We'll see.

Well, that's not good news for people who live further south. :( But of course its bad anywhere it hits population.

[ad4mg]

Model changed again. They keep dropping it further south. We'll see.

It looks like we'll catch a serious break in central VA due to this. Some stiff winds Friday/Saturday, and a few inches of rain. The ground here is super-saturated, so I wouldn't be surprised to see the near TS force winds take down some trees. We are way over our normal rainfall here this year.

[KG4CGC]

It looks like we'll catch a serious break in central VA due to this. Some stiff winds Friday/Saturday, and a few inches of rain. The ground here is super-saturated, so I wouldn't be surprised to see the near TS force winds take down some trees. We are way over our normal rainfall here this year.

We are also supersaturated and things are also likely to fall over with the winds.

[n2ize]

Last I heard the hurricane is weakening and has expanding as it loosens up a bit. This could be both good and bad. Less tightly focused intensity could spell out less devastation and somewhat less danger due to lower winds, etc. On the other hand the wider coverage area could mean more widespread problems such as flooding...etc.

[n2ize]

We are also supersaturated and things are also likely to fall over with the winds.

Yeah, that's what I was thinking when I wrote the above. With the ground and trees heavily laden with water even diminished winds can easily topple trees.

In just a couple months we'll be looking at the same weather maps but wondering which areas will be most affected by the blizzard.

[KG4CGC]

It's still going to dump a shitton of rain regardless of weakening. Enough to fill 80 Lake Hartwells.

[KC9ECI]

Good luck to any of you in the path of the hurricane(s). I may have to deal with snow and the occasional tornado or flood, but I wouldn't trade any of that for a hurricane.

[KG4CGC]

So it took a northerly landfall and is weakening.

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[WZ7U]

We've had sympathy rain here the last three days. If I could post the cell phone vid I shot of the deluge coming into the shop, I would. Nothing of the magnitude the east coast is about to get, but a WTF moment nonetheless.

Good luck fellas, stay safe!

[n2ize]

So it took a northerly landfall and is weakening.

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It's a strong Cat 1 storm now. It's been weakening and I guess once the bulk of it is over land it will rapidly diminish in intensity. What seems to be the main issue it that the storm is crawling along so slowly. By the time this storm is up in my latitude it should be well to our west and will have traversed over land for such a distance that it will probably be at best just rain, possibly a whole lot of rain.

[PA5COR]

Dropping 10 trillion gallons of rain is expected.
That is a lot of water even over the large area...

[KG4CGC]

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[KG4CGC]

Hasn't moved much but it has steered south. Yesterday I went to an eastern view looking for cloud tops, winds, etc that would indicate the arms of the storm extending outwards. Found nothing. There was a cloud bank to the west. Pop up stuff. Humidity and evening occurrences.

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[KG4CGC]

It's creeping along at 3 mph. Here are today's clouds.

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[KG4CGC]

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[KC9ECI]

Friend of mine is moving to Monroe NC soon, something about turkey production. Looks like a nice area, may have to visit next spring/summer.

[KG4CGC]

Earlier this morning till about 1 pm we had gusty winds. Some very strong at 45 mph. Winds dies down a little and we had a few light sprinkles.


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[KG4CGC]

It's very light rain. Slight occasional gusts. Seems to be headed NW. That puts us at the bottom section of the spin, avoiding the stronger section of the storm.

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[KG4CGC]

BTW, I am west about 60 or more miles west of the dot which marks Spartanburg.

[KG4CGC]

Know what? Maybe it would be better if you could check the map yourself.

https://www.accuweather.com/en/us/easley-sc/29640/weather-radar/335506

I'm glad it's not so bad for my area. Others are not so lucky.

[PA5COR]

What we see here on telly in the Netherlands is bad enough.... glad you are safe.

[ad4mg]

It was a rough evening here in Richmond. Multiple confirmed tornadoes, and tornado warnings numbered in the dozens. At least one death confirmed, over near Midlothian, Va. Some brave fellow captured a video of this one:

https://wtvr.com/2018/09/17/chesterfield-building-destoryed-after-reported-tornado-near-hull-street/

All of the action was just west of me... the latest tornado warning went out for western Richmond, no more than 5 miles from my house. I feel quite fortunate.

[WZ7U]

I bet you guys don't get that too often, huh? VA doesn't strike me as tornado country.
Spectacular shit. Too bad people sometimes have to get hurt by it.

[ad4mg]

Not unheard of, but it is rare to see a multiple twister outbreak like we did Monday. I think the topography (mountains to the west, ocean to the east) isn't so favorable for the types of storms that spawn tornadoes. Funny thing, none of the super-cells had cloud tops much higher than 20,000 - 30,000 feet. It was a combination of extreme moisture and turbulence from the remnants of Florence. Humidity was very high all day Monday, like pea soup. That, we have lots of in the summer. Mold counts here go higher than the scale the meteorologists use to measure them!


I bet you guys don't get that too often, huh? VA doesn't strike me as tornado country.
Spectacular shit. Too bad people sometimes have to get hurt by it.

[n2ize]

Well, the hurricane finally reaches us last week. Of course it was no longer a hurricane nor a tropical storm. And most of the remaining clouds were well to the west giving us a little rain and a couple thundershowers.

[PA5COR]

Summer departed today, had our first Autumn storm and buckets of rain and temps below 20 C...
Next week Saturday new 4 season tires will be put on the car....

[ad4mg]

Just dandy, several tornado warnings nearby. Virginia must be part of tornado alley!

[WZ7U]

Just dandy, several tornado warnings nearby. Virginia must be part of tornado alley!

Part of the new reality.
It's only because DC sucks so bad, it draws the tornadoes in. Now, the trick is to focus them a little north of you.... :yes:

[KG4CGC]

86 during the day after the hurricane rains blew off. Now the temps are dropping. Expecting 48 by 8am.

[WZ7U]

We have a week of 70's in store with no rain. Weird for the PNW in October...

But I'll take it! I've got stuff to do outdoors that rain makes into a chore.

[PA5COR]

Last week 20 - 22 C here sunny and all that stuff, weird....

[ad4mg]

In VA, 7 tornadoes, 5 deaths, 534,000 without power as of this morning. My power just came back on... 23-1/2 hours after it went off. Great time to be waiting on a part for the generator.

[KG4CGC]

We literally got a 14 hour rain, mild. Little wind yet a bunch of people still lost power. Guess because the ground is saturated.
We were definitely of the weak side of this one the whole time.

[PA5COR]

24.1 C in the south of the Netherlands 28 C... Weird.
Should be around 15 to 17 C now, summer thinks different.

[ad4mg]

10" of snow just SW of KRIC, 1" - 3" more to follow. Pics of the snow on a table out in the clear:

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Looks like a birthday cake! :icon_smile:

[KG4CGC]

We got about 4 inches in total. I didn't expect anything until tonight or tomorrow though.
Surprise!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5lBAYt6fxw&feature=youtu.be

[WZ7U]

Yer silly!

[suddenseer]

We got about 4 inches in total. I didn't expect anything until tonight or tomorrow though.
Surprise!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5lBAYt6fxw&feature=youtu.beI stopped in Newport, Tn to visit family. Took the scenic route through the Smokeys, bad idea at the tail end of a blizzard/storm that the NC guvnah declared an emergency, and I am driving a uhaul, with my harley on a trailer over the mountains. Shitty winter weather can now kiss my ass! I had no idea about a major storm. My 2m walkie talkie batteries are dead, and I rarely find a chatty open carrier repeater friendly to visitors.

[n2ize]

Tingle in my bones just thinking bout the weather...

[KG4CGC]

I stopped in Newport, Tn to visit family. Took the scenic route through the Smokeys, bad idea at the tail end of a blizzard/storm that the NC guvnah declared an emergency, and I am driving a uhaul, with my harley on a trailer over the mountains. Shitty winter weather can now kiss my ass! I had no idea about a major storm. My 2m walkie talkie batteries are dead, and I rarely find a chatty open carrier repeater friendly to visitors.

About a month/5 weeks ago I took the Blue Ridge Parkway from 215 into Cherokee. There were a couple of parts where there was snow on the shoulders and icicles on the rock walls. It starts early up there and I've seen some pictures from Mt. Mitchell from volunteer Parkway workers. The area is covered in feet, feet of snow.

[PA5COR]

Just the first days colder, a few degrees under 0 C in the nights, around 0 daytime, sunday the new warm front will cme dumping snow first then temps back up to 7 C...

[koØm]

Regional Rhetoric



I don't know where you reside but, where I live, around this time of year, the local weather-caster/Meteorologist start up with this "White Christmas" weather forecast bull crap.

Let me tell you why, "The White Christmas" dream is really a nightmare.

A few years back, we had a snowfall leading up to and on X-mas Day covering the Mid-west, the Middle Atlantic states, East Coast and, New England; Air Traffic was snarled with countless delays and canceled flights.

Driving to see relatives locally was almost like being on a Billiards Table with hundreds of accidents and fender-benders.

Do they dream of "White Christmas" in Southern California, Arizona, Florida?

Does Europe give a flop about Bing Crosby, the movie named, "Holiday Inn" or that song, "Dreaming of a White Christmas"?

I've now found it best, when I watch the local news programs, to MUTE the weather forecaster on my favorite channel; all she does is drone on over and over about numbers that are self-explanatory on the TV screen and, she throws the 'White Christmas' crap in there.

/click mute

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[PA5COR]

If we get once every 10 - 15 year a snowed day on Christmas we can be happy.
Just ad our first dusting and till after 31st December temps are back up to 7 -11 C... at 53N ... but sea climate.
Nope i don't do Xmas what became the eat all you can and spend all you can fake fest i cannot care about.
I rather see a mild winter which saves on heating costs, but we can get brutal winters here.
We'll see what January/February will bring if we get an early SSW we can get hit bad.
all is pointing to that, so having 4 new all weather tires under the new car might have been a good idea.

[n2ize]

Regional Rhetoric



I don't know where you reside but, where I live, around this time of year, the local weather-caster/Meteorologist start up with this "White Christmas" weather forecast bull crap.

Let me tell you why, "The White Christmas" dream is really a nightmare.

A few years back, we had a snowfall leading up to and on X-mas Day covering the Mid-west, the Middle Atlantic states, East Coast and, New England; Air Traffic was snarled with countless delays and canceled flights.

Driving to see relatives locally was almost like being on a Billiards Table with hundreds of accidents and fender-benders.

Do they dream of "White Christmas" in Southern California, Arizona, Florida?

Does Europe give a flop about Bing Crosby, the movie named, "Holiday Inn" or that song, "Dreaming of a White Christmas"?

I've now found it best, when I watch the local news programs, to MUTE the weather forecaster on my favorite channel; all she does is drone on over and over about numbers that are self-explanatory on the TV screen and, she throws the 'White Christmas' crap in there.

/click mute

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Well, figure it like this. The song "White Christmas" was written to romanticize the times long before there were airports, air travel, cars, etc. Travel in winter involved hitching the horses to the sleigh and then traveling down the road to the neighboring farm where you go together with a few locals to celebrate the holiday. (or for non-Cheechakos maybe hitching the dog team to the sled or putting on the snow shoes and walking). Of course those folks who lived then probably considered it a PITA to travel through snow as well. But it's human nature to romanticize things when we look into that mirror to the past.

[n2ize]

If we get once every 10 - 15 year a snowed day on Christmas we can be happy.
Just ad our first dusting and till after 31st December temps are back up to 7 -11 C... at 53N ... but sea climate.
Nope i don't do Xmas what became the eat all you can and spend all you can fake fest i cannot care about.
I rather see a mild winter which saves on heating costs, but we can get brutal winters here.
We'll see what January/February will bring if we get an early SSW we can get hit bad.
all is pointing to that, so having 4 new all weather tires under the new car might have been a good idea.

Same basic patterns here. Often we get very cold weather in November and early December. Then as we get close to winter and Christmastime things tend to warm up considerably for anywhere from at least a week to a month before we see a return to something that once again resembles winter weather. Although there are occaisional exceptions. Like a few years when it stayed cold and snowy from November till April. Most of the time however we rarely see a white Xmas.

[kb2crk]

Same basic patterns here. Often we get very cold weather in November and early December. Then as we get close to winter and Christmastime things tend to warm up considerably for anywhere from at least a week to a month before we see a return to something that once again resembles winter weather. Although there are occaisional exceptions. Like a few years when it stayed cold and snowy from November till April. Most of the time however we rarely see a white Xmas.

You have a much better chance than I do of a white christmas. Here in Georgia it is almost always a wet christmas....

[KG4CGC]

Inches of rain. 50º Merry Christmas.

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[suddenseer]

I did a load of bleachables today, that is white as I will get spending my first 4th, 5th Christmas in Fla. I am getting a nice tan riding around on the Harley down here. I am not the big white guy much these days.

[KC2KFC]

Well, figure it like this. The song "White Christmas" was written to romanticize the times long before there were airports, air travel, cars, etc. Travel in winter involved hitching the horses to the sleigh and then traveling down the road to the neighboring farm where you go together with a few locals to celebrate the holiday. (or for non-Cheechakos maybe hitching the dog team to the sled or putting on the snow shoes and walking). Of course those folks who lived then probably considered it a PITA to travel through snow as well. But it's human nature to romanticize things when we look into that mirror to the past.

The song "White Christmas" was written by Irving Berlin in 1942.

[n2ize]

The song "White Christmas" was written by Irving Berlin in 1942.

Yeah, I know that. True it was written by Berlin in modern times. But it was written with the idea of bringing forth imagery and a sense of Christmases of old (pre- 20th century Christmases) particularly in rural areas where you just might need to hitch the horse to the sleigh if you planned to travel. The song may be fairly modern but the sentiments of the song take us to a snow covered landscape in days long gone.

[KG4CGC]

Yeah, I know that. True it was written by Berlin in modern times. But it was written with the idea of bringing forth imagery and a sense of Christmases of old (pre- 20th century Christmases) particularly in rural areas where you just might need to hitch the horse to the sleigh if you planned to travel. The song may be fairly modern but the sentiments of the song take us to a snow covered landscape in days long gone.

Because it was easier to pull a sleigh through snow that a wagon through mud. It also gave everyone a sense and look of cleanliness vs being covered in mud up to your hip and there was no telling how much actual shit was in that mud.

[VE7DCW]

We just came through one of the worst but briefest windstorms since 2006.On Dec. 20 the storm clocked at some locations at 145 km per hour left 330,000 households on Vancouver Island and on the lower Mainland of BC without power.I lost power for 12 hours and there are some people who will still be in the dark through Christmas! A lot of fallen trees have done incredible damage to the power infrastructure on Vancouver Island......and 0% chance for a white Christmas which really is a good thing!

Merry Christmas to all! :peace:

[PA5COR]

Sun is out, 7 C till at least 4th of January rising to 9 C.
Green Xmas it is then,( AGAIN AS USUAL)

[KG4CGC]

We got mud.

[PA5COR]

Cloudy, 8 C no branches moving, high pressure area till end of the year so warmer as normal.

[kb2crk]

Inches of rain. 50º Merry Christmas.

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Get off my lawn.....

[N1LAF]

...
We'll see what January/February will bring if we get an early SSW we can get hit bad.
all is pointing to that, so having 4 new all weather tires under the new car might have been a good idea.

The SSW is looking more likely, and most of the time, produces bitter cold winters for eastern US and Europe.

Joe Bastardi has been predicting a colder winter since August. (https://www.weatherbell.com/)
Good discussion on SSW and the polar vortex here: https://www.nymetroweather.com/2018/12/18/on-the-polar-vortex-what-is-hype-what-isnt-and-how-it-may-affect-us/

[PA5COR]

Joe Bastardi has been predicting the winter of the century/doom/death for the last 12 years,and failed all the time..just as his prediction we would get back into another ice age since 2014....
Fox climate denier par excellence... https://www.skepticalscience.com/one-confusedi-bastardi.html

It all depends on how the SSW runs, and where the cold reservoirs end up,mostly if the USA gets bad cold we get a normal winter, or the split should also be above the EU, then we can get a bad winter.
Last year SWW made February and the start of March colder as usual here and caused the "beast of the East" problems in the EU and specially UK through the lake effect dumped snow in the UK.
Cold eastern wind over the relative warm channel/North Sea caused massive dumps of snow in the UK and we got our share here as well.
After that we had a scorcher of a summer....
Till now December was much too warm, one little snow dump that was gone in 12 hours, and up to the 4th of January the same, after that the bets are off.
January and February are the coldest months here, so i do expect some cold to pop in later in January.

[N1LAF]

Joe Bastardi has been predicting the winter of the century/doom/death for the last 12 years,and failed all the time..just as his prediction we would get back into another ice age since 2014....
Fox climate denier par excellence... https://www.skepticalscience.com/one-confusedi-bastardi.html

It all depends on how the SSW runs, and where the cold reservoirs end up,mostly if the USA gets bad cold we get a normal winter, or the split should also be above the EU, then we can get a bad winter.
Last year SWW made February and the start of March colder as usual here and caused the "beast of the East" problems in the EU and specially UK through the lake effect dumped snow in the UK.
Cold eastern wind over the relative warm channel/North Sea caused massive dumps of snow in the UK and we got our share here as well.
After that we had a scorcher of a summer....
Till now December was much too warm, one little snow dump that was gone in 12 hours, and up to the 4th of January the same, after that the bets are off.
January and February are the coldest months here, so i do expect some cold to pop in later in January.

Let's keep the political nonsense out of the discussion, this is not the place for it.

I came across Bastardi's forecasts last winter, and he was dead-on accurate in predicting big snow storms along the east coast. Last last Jan/early Feb, there was a big snow storm in Europe, he said that storm will result in a big east coast storm. I counted the days, and on the tenth day, we did have a big storm. Last Aug, he predicted a cold, dry winter for the east coast, when the others were predicting warmer than normal. The SSW that was not foreseen, will probably increase the precipitation along the east coast, but as you know, SSW's are not yet well understood. Slide 16 from this NOAA presentation http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/precip/CWlink/MJO/mjoupdate.pdf, has the GFS MJO (Madden-Julian Oscillation) in line with Bastardi's earlier prediction, with phase 6 going to extremes. Phase 7 and 8 is what to watch for, as timing in the coldest part of winter. The east coast (US) and western Europe is in the same situation in this scenario. The SSW will make things interesting. Please keep us posted with your weather events.

[WZ7U]

Alright, help me out here. The SSW? Whuut?

[KG4CGC]

Alright, help me out here. The SSW? Whuut?

Sudden Stratospheric Warming

https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/learning/wind/sudden-stratospheric-warming


What is an SSW?

The term SSW refers to what we observe - rapid warming (up to about 50 *°C in just a couple of days) in the stratosphere, between 10 km and 50 km up.


(6 to 31 miles)

Edited to add: https://www.metric-conversions.org/

[WZ7U]

Well shit, I just learned something.

[PA5COR]

Just proves the old saying that you are never to old to learn....:snicker:

Well shit, I just learned something.

[PA5COR]

Nothing political in my post, just real facts, even a broke clock is twice right a day... but that does not mean it is a good clock.

Up to the first decade in January not much change, too warm for the time of the year, and dry.
High pressure area still dominating the weather here, enough snow in the Alp regions in Switzerland etc though.
7 to 10 C here, cloudy but dry now.
https://www.buienradar.nl/weer/Sneek/NL/2747063/14daagse 14 day forecast for my region in the Netherlands.
Any effects of the SSWE will be after 2 or 3 weeks time .



Let's keep the political nonsense out of the discussion, this is not the place for it.

I came across Bastardi's forecasts last winter, and he was dead-on accurate in predicting big snow storms along the east coast. Last last Jan/early Feb, there was a big snow storm in Europe, he said that storm will result in a big east coast storm. I counted the days, and on the tenth day, we did have a big storm. Last Aug, he predicted a cold, dry winter for the east coast, when the others were predicting warmer than normal. The SSW that was not foreseen, will probably increase the precipitation along the east coast, but as you know, SSW's are not yet well understood. Slide 16 from this NOAA presentation http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/precip/CWlink/MJO/mjoupdate.pdf, has the GFS MJO (Madden-Julian Oscillation) in line with Bastardi's earlier prediction, with phase 6 going to extremes. Phase 7 and 8 is what to watch for, as timing in the coldest part of winter. The east coast (US) and western Europe is in the same situation in this scenario. The SSW will make things interesting. Please keep us posted with your weather events.

[N1LAF]

Nothing political in my post, just real facts, even a broke clock is twice right a day... but that does not mean it is a good clock.

Up to the first decade in January not much change, too warm for the time of the year, and dry...

Even that 'fact' can be wrong... when you have a 24 hour military clock ;)

Could this be the calm before an active winter season?

For the curious (and not too old to learn), I find this good reading, and what we may expect in the near future.
Recent Arctic amplification and extreme mid-latitude weather (https://www.aer.com/news-events/resource-library/recent-arctic-amplification-and-extreme-mid-latitude-weather/)

[AA1OH]

68 F this morning in south/central Georgia going up to 75 F and rain for the next few days.....

[PA5COR]

Less cold in the arctic, less cover of sea ice there, warmer sea temperatures, will influence weather, slowing down the jetstream, and make it wander more.
As we can see with the SSWE where extreme cold temperatures can go down to Florida, or let it snow in Egypt and the Arabic countries...
At the same time North Finland, Sweden, Alaska etc see higher temperatures as in spring...
The current SSWE will influence the weather in 14 days or so, depending where the cold air is pushed to, and depending on blockages and lower or blocked jetstream can linger quite long.
I looked at some models trying to predict where the colder air will end up, but the models are now totally disagreeing with each other, so we just have to wait.
Looking ahead 5 days is reliable, 5 to 10 days is a trend, further ahead is estimated guesswork, further ahead is underbelly feelings.
One small change in the chaotic weather system will overthrow every prediction further as 10 days ahead.
So,sorry if i can only laugh at Joe Bastardi predicting the winter of death/doom since 2012 every year in the UK tabloids and "news" channels for here and be proved wrong every year.
It is winter, we get frost, snow and that is expected, how much? only time will tell, see me back in April ;)
Till now December was too warm, too dry, almost no frost, and 1//2 inch snow that lasted all of 12 hours.
But there is still January and February to go, though the first decade in January is more of the same.
And, although seldom, we have the odd cold winters here, once every 10 to 15 years or so, looking back since 1750 when the first unbroken weather data was noted down, more and more seldom though.

[N1LAF]

Well, Cor, I guess that is what happens when you listen to tabloids rather than direct source. Since I am listening to the direct source, I haven't heard anything dramatic. I get a thorough explanation of the MJO, what phase we are in, what could happen next, and why. There is a lot of discussion on 'analog' years, otherwise known as similar years of same patterns.

Predictions (US):NOAA (https://www.weather.gov/ffc/WinterOutlook20182019) - Generally warm to neutral.
Joe at Weatherbell (https://local21news.com/news/videos/our-guest-meteorologist-joe-bastardis-winter-prediction) - Long cold winter

We will know who was closer at the end of winter.

Things to look at: AO(Arctic Oscillation) - negative for colder/stormier
SSW and the Polar vortex
MJO Phases.
NAO (North Atlantic Oscillation) - negative for colder/stormier

Either way, my shovels and ice breakers are ready, as is my snow thrower. And a healthy stock of firewood.

[KG4CGC]

56ºF
99% humidity
Barometric pressure @30.01in.
Wind NE @2mph
Dew point 55º
Visibility 0.6 miles
Cloudy and foggy

[WZ7U]

We're about 10* less here but similar in all other aspects.

[PA5COR]

You guessed wrong, tabloids i read for fun online and wonder why people read them.
My sources are the Royal Dutch Meteorologic Institute, ( KNMI) and a series of other sources, NOAA, professional meteorologic forums etc.
As shown for the 4 season tires of the new car, i do prepare for the worst and hope for the best.
4 centuries ago the Netherlands was the first country that kept weather data on daily basis till today.
The KNMI was founded in January 1854, we can use the data from 4 centuries to compare.
Including temperature, rainfall, sun hours, and sea level.
Mind you the season might be totally different for the USA and Europe.
Bastardi predictions were for Europe blistering cold December and lots of snow, didn 't happen, so he's already blown it there.
Comparing similar yeears forget the climate changed since those years, and can only give a very limited sample.
As stated above, a relative small change anywhere can totally change the pattern and outcome of every "prediction"' .

It is a chaotic system predictions over a 14 day period are already dodgy, longer predictions are gueswork, and if you like Bastardi predicts for every winter the "winter of death/doom" there is a change you might get lucky, till now he failed miserably.
As stated, a stopped clock is right 2 times a day, still a failed clock.






Well, Cor, I guess that is what happens when you listen to tabloids rather than direct source. Since I am listening to the direct source, I haven't heard anything dramatic. I get a thorough explanation of the MJO, what phase we are in, what could happen next, and why. There is a lot of discussion on 'analog' years, otherwise known as similar years of same patterns.

Predictions (US):NOAA (https://www.weather.gov/ffc/WinterOutlook20182019) - Generally warm to neutral.
Joe at Weatherbell (https://local21news.com/news/videos/our-guest-meteorologist-joe-bastardis-winter-prediction) - Long cold winter

We will know who was closer at the end of winter.

Things to look at: AO(Arctic Oscillation) - negative for colder/stormier
SSW and the Polar vortex
MJO Phases.
NAO (North Atlantic Oscillation) - negative for colder/stormier

Either way, my shovels and ice breakers are ready, as is my snow thrower. And a healthy stock of firewood.

[N1LAF]

We shall see.... in March.

The Weather Channel (https://weather.com/forecast/national/news/2018-11-14-late-november-winter-temperature-outlook-the-weather-company)now supports the Eastern US Colder winter prediction

[KG4CGC]

60ºF
77% Humidity
Barometric pressure 30.15in
Wind NNE @3mph
Dew point 52º
Visibility 9.3 miles
Sunny with some high clouds

[suddenseer]

Well shit, I just learned something.I have a theory of which hams are not weather geeks. You just shot it all to hell.

[WZ7U]

Oops

[KG4CGC]

54ºF
Humidity 92%
Barometric pressure 30.15in
Wind NE @2mph
Dew point 54º
Visibility 9.3 miles
Late night and AM showers gave way to partial clearing before more clouds rolled in. Four more days of solid rain expected.

[W5BRM]

54ºF
Humidity 92%
Barometric pressure 30.15in
Wind NE @2mph
Dew point 54º
Visibility 9.3 miles
Late night and AM showers gave way to partial clearing before more clouds rolled in. Four more days of solid rain expected.


Not being a nitpicker here but if temp is 54° and DP is 54°, how does that equal 92% humidity?

[KG4CGC]

Not being a nitpicker here but if temp is 54° and DP is 54°, how does that equal 92% humidity?

Could have been a typo. Then again, this is South Carolina. The remote monitoring gear isn't always in great shape. I know the one by the railroad tracks is/was constantly being repaired. I saw them working on it one day and saw a rust spot running from the top mounting position to the underside of the box, on the pole. I suggested they look at the mounting parts as that would be the weak spot letting in unwanted moisture to areas they didn't want it!
They were polite. I felt I was told to STFU and FO. That was 5 years ago. Haven't seen it worked on since but the rust lives on.

[KG4CGC]

I'm at 99% humidity now with a floating mist in the air. 56ºF. 57º dew point.

[WZ7U]

Rust never sleeps. I seem to remember that from somewhere in my childhood.

[KG4CGC]

Rust never sleeps. I seem to remember that from somewhere in my childhood.

Nor does salt.
Nor do salty people.

[KG4CGC]

58ºF
Humidity @99%
Barometric pressure @30.00in even
Wind EES @3mph
Dew Point 66º
Visibility 0.3 miles
Light rain and general mistiness. Fog comes and goes. Temp was 2º cooler a couple of hours ago.

[WZ7U]

Nor does salt.
Nor do salty people.

Wow, that explains a lot. Could have bearing on my blood pressure issues too.

As well as this propensity I have for going full retard.

[KG4CGC]

Wow, that explains a lot. Could have bearing on my blood pressure issues too.

As well as this propensity I have for going full retard.

It wasn't directed at you. It was a general statement. Happy New Year.

[KG4CGC]

Update: Temp is now 64º. Six degrees up from an hour ago. Dew Point 63º and humidity dropped to 90%.
Wind is now due West @5mph.

[WZ7U]

It wasn't directed at you. It was a general statement. Happy New Year.

Aww man. If the shoe fit.... :-D
Happy New Year!

[KG4CGC]

Last year at this time is was about 29ºF and cloudy. The real rain didn't come until May and it didn't stop until August. For a few weeks, 4, we had a normal pattern but the rain came back.


By 10 a.m. Monday, the region had logged 11.42 inches of rain in December alone and 67.92 inches for the year, according to Justin Lane, a meteorologist with the National Weather Service at the Greenville-Spartanburg International Airport in Greer.

6th wettest year on record. 1901 beat this with 78.85 inches.

https://www.greenvilleonline.com/story/news/2018/12/31/2018-one-wettest-years-record-upstate/2451726002/

[WZ7U]

Thats crazy!
We've been light on the rain around here until the last couple of weeks when it has almost caught up for the year. Weirdness in spades. The only problem with the sun coming out is it stays about 10-15* colder at night. Amazing how much warmer it stays under cloud insulation.

[KG4CGC]

Rain
50ºF
Wind 0mph
Good. I was worried my mud would dehydrate.

[PA5COR]

6 C, sunny, with a chance on a few rain drops.
1 to 2 Beaufort.

[N1LAF]

"Here it comes" starting this week.

[PA5COR]

Though the Alps are drowning in snow, we didn't see any winter here, bar the 1/2 inch snow that thawed away almost directly in December.
Yesterday 10 C and rain, today sunny and 5 C, at the end of the week maybe a change to some colder weather with a bit night frost, though still not certain.
Still watching what the SSW will do.
As things look now the new 4 season tires won't get much work this winter, though February is the coldest month here...

[kb2crk]

Well the all season tires are not working well here either. The swamp formally known as my front yard has almost swallowed my truck and the wifeys car several times recently. If the mud gets any deeper I may need to get a 4wd.

[KG4CGC]

They didn't call for rain today but rain came a calling anyway.

[suddenseer]

They didn't call for rain today but rain came a calling anyway.What did it call you?

[N1LAF]

The cold air arrived... got up to 5 DegF this afternoon

[PA5COR]

-2.5 C here, snowing, just a dusting of 1 to 2 inches, nothing spectacular though, my 4 season tires at last prove their worth.

[N8YX]

We got anywhere between 15-18" of Harper in NE Ahia.

Digging out was fun. Watching 50+ degree temperatures and rain turn all this to floods will be funnerer.

[kb2crk]

We got anywhere between 15-18" of Harper in NE Ahia.

Digging out was fun. Watching 50+ degree temperatures and rain turn all this to floods will be funnerer.

Funerer is good.... Right????

[N8YX]

Funerer is good.... Right????

Mo better. Especially if you're a duck which can float.

[PA5COR]

Buy a boat....:mrgreen:
Temps lowering to -10 to - 13 C the next nights thanks through the snow cover.... electric blanket stand by.
Had some fun with the new car on a large spot with snow, just testing the ABS and the other 3 letter safety systems and tires.
We survived....:smoker:

[KG4CGC]

Monday night, Tuesday morning low 22ºF.
Tuesday night, Wednesday morning low 34ºF.
Tonight, tomorrow morning low 44ºF.
Thursday night, Friday morning low 27ºF.
Rain this evening and tonight up to an inch.
High today and tomorrow 56ºF.
High yesterday 40º.
Hugh Monday 35º.
High pressure area has remained of the area for days.
Jet stream expected to dip down as far south as the Georgia Florida state line.
Jet stream expected to be the biggest variable in all the prediction models.

[WZ7U]

More dry on tap. I fear fire this summer...

[N1LAF]

Coldmageddon mid next week?

[N8YX]

More dry on tap. I fear fire this summer...

One of my coworkers lives very near Chino, CA...knows of the mess which happened in Paradise.

I hope you folks don't suffer a repeat of that.

[KE6KA]

One of my coworkers lives very near Chino, CA...knows of the mess which happened in Paradise.

I hope you folks don't suffer a repeat of that.

Chino or Chico? One is east of Los Angeles. The other is 12 miles from Paradise. People confuse the two all the time.

[WZ7U]

Had that problem with a load of shopping carts once. Both stops were on the bill. The boss read them wrong and went to Chino first. Chino's load was in the nose, not the tail. What a freaking nightmare that load was, 6 or 7 stops all together and we had to reverse engineer the whole count and route to keep it right. Taught me early on to pay attention to the bills.

He wasn't too happy when I pointed out his error about 300 miles out of route. Of course I was in training so I was paying attention to other things like the actual operation of the truck. I only caught it because I was not driving and got bored so I thought it a good time to look at that sort of stuff. Did eventually get an atta-boy for it and proved my worth early on to the company. I'm glad I didn't have to make that call to dispatch to say oops.

How does all that relate to the possible summer coming? If we don't keep up on the rain/snow around here we dry out quick and this region is used to its moisture. We get bad fires as it is in Oregon, but if it continues to dry like this, we could see epic fires in places that haven't had fires like that in 70-80 years; areas that are now all built up. No bueno....

[suddenseer]

Damn it has been cold here. 50's in the morning, and mid 60's daytime. I had to wear a sweater on the bike today!

[KC9ECI]

Wednesday night it's predicted to be -27 °F. Thinking I might add some antigel to the truck and make sure I start the girls cars a couple times overnight.

[PA5COR]

Temps back to normal for the time of the year, above 0 C that is, with a mix of sun, rain, sleet hail mixed in.
No problem for the new ( ish) Hyundai I10, tested in the last december checkup good for - 30 C + and the dinky 1 liter engine boasts an 70 Amp AGM battery for the stop and go system in place of the normal 44 amp lead battery for the cars without stop and go system.

[X-Rated]

Thursday morning is forecasted to be -34F here. At that time we will be colder than Siberia, Mt Everest, and the South Pole.

[KG4CGC]

Thursday morning is forecasted to be -34F here. At that time we will be colder than Siberia, Mt Everest, and the South Pole.

Hey. What is your high supposed to be for that day? -17ºF?

[WZ7U]

Holee McFucksters!!

[X-Rated]

Hey. What is your high supposed to be for that day? -17ºF?
I've never seen a high in the negative teens before. We're normally around 10 above. But yeah. Around -14 or so.

[KG4CGC]

I've never seen a high in the negative teens before. We're normally around 10 above. But yeah. Around -14 or so.

Amazing. Stay warm. Do your best.
One of our forecasts (I use a couple of different ones) looks like this. They're all calling for similar.

16093

[X-Rated]

Amazing. Stay warm. Do your best.
One of our forecasts (I use a couple of different ones) looks like this. They're all calling for similar.

16093

Every one stay warm.

[KC9ECI]

I'm going to walk to work tomorrow and Thursday. Wind chill values as low as -57.

[PA5COR]

Bit nippy out thre with you guy's stay warm and safe.
Bit of the normal winter here, few degreees c below in the night, few degrees above 0 C daytime, with some snow flurry now and then, nothing to worry about, an ordinary winter it is till now.
Keep the cold there, i like the low energy bills till now ;)

[koØm]

Bit nippy out thre with you guy's stay warm and safe.
Bit of the normal winter here, few degreees c below in the night, few degrees above 0 C daytime, with some snow flurry now and then, nothing to worry about, an ordinary winter it is till now.
Keep the cold there, i like the low energy bills till now ;)

Oh, it's on -17 degrees Celsius here!

.

[N8YX]

I might get my snow bike out and hit the nearby trail...just because.

Got a pic from family in MN showing an inch and a half of ice on the inside of their living room window.

DoNotWant.jpg

[KC9ECI]

I survived my walk in to work.

[X-Rated]

I survived my walk in to work.
Wow. -25. We warmed up to about -20 in the sun by 11:00 AM.
16101

[AA1OH]

Worst I have been in is -22F in Royalston Mass. shattered the front seat vinyl when I sat down.

[WZ7U]

In January of '82 I visited friends in (Why not?) Minot, ND for 4 months total. One night as we were enjoying a fermented beverage or 12, the DJ on the radio station said that with the windchill the temp outside was -72*. We glanced at each other and in a 'hold my beer' moment, we bundled up (taking said beer with us) and went out to experience the sensation that is 72 below. Lasted all of about 5 minutes when the novelty wore right the fuck off. Never again, not on purpose; although I've seen my share of down to 30 below out in the midwest trailer trucking in those later years.

There's a reason I moved down to purt near sea level in a coastal region. It wasn't for the shits and grins... and CA just doesn't do it for me in the summer.

[KC9ECI]

Our overnight low tonight is predicted to be -37 °F. Currently it's -18°F. Of course today is the day that my mom decided to schedule a heart attack. I had to bail out of work and run to Eau Claire. Everything is good though, some stints and a little angioplasty and she was sassy as ever. Lot of venison out foraging for food on the way home. I normally keep a winter survival bag with, but I grabbed a spare backpack and loaded some extras for the journey and even included the KX3 and a small 4 season tent. Some of the trip to E.C. from here gets pretty rural. By Sunday they're calling for 45 °F and drizzle. My trip to Madrid can't start soon enough.

[KG4CGC]

Wow. -25. We warmed up to about -20 in the sun by 11:00 AM.
16101

WOW!
May I use your photo and give the location?

[KD8TUT]

Hi guys...

Well, we are -7 at the moment. It's down to -16 east of us. But Lake Michigan keeps things warmer.

We received an alert from the new national cell phone alert system letting us know that Berrien County is basically closed due to cold and blowing snow. They have warned not to drive. Companies are all closed. We've had whiteout conditions for two days.

We received a second alert on the national alert system instructing us to lower our thermostats to 65 until Friday afternoon. Apparently there has been an "incident" at a gas distribution facility.

Here on the lake shore we've had gale force winds. Snow is still coming down in spurts.

I'm staying up until 5am (when the wife gets up) so someone is awake if we lose power or gas.

It's been "fun".

[KD8TUT]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1863DmF9rMo&feature=youtu.be

[N8YX]

One of my motorcycle buddies (Inuit; native of Anchorage) thinks the negative teens are balmy. Temps at or slightly above freezing are T-shirt weather.

He's currently on the North Slope, keeping polar bears away from the oilfield operations.

I think he's nuts, but he was sweating half to death in mid-80-degree Ohio in July while at a rally. It's all relative, I guess.

[X-Rated]

Sure. It was colder this morning but I was too cold to take another picture.

[X-Rated]

Charles. The qth is my home qth in Oregon Illinois.

[PA5COR]

BRRRRRRRRRRRR, keep it there will ya?:snicker:

[KG4CGC]

Charles. The qth is my home qth in Oregon Illinois.

Thank you.

[WZ7U]

Been through Oregon, OH many times, Oregon IL once. At least both places got one name right..... :peace:

[X-Rated]

BRRRRRRRRRRRR, keep it there will ya?:snicker:

Shipping is too steep to Die Nederlande. It's pretty much over now with temperatures nearing -5F already. I'm breaking a sweat.

[X-Rated]

Been through Oregon, OH many times, Oregon IL once. At least both places got one name right..... :peace:

This little town is simply beautiful. I like it.

[KC9ECI]

-40 this am, that was before the wind chill. I walked a little faster. Saturday is predicted to have a high of 40F. And drizzle.

[X-Rated]

-40 this am, that was before the wind chill. I walked a little faster. Saturday is predicted to have a high of 40F. And drizzle.
Yowsers.
Weather service at the time said it was -38F here. We just got above freezing. Yay.

[X-Rated]

A town nearby officially recorded -38F. They apparently hold the state record now. Mt. Carroll, Illinois. Quite a few people died.

[suddenseer]

It got down to 48 F, and has been in the mid 70's-low 80's high. Since I only ride the Hog, I cover with leather, and denim accordingly. I was so out of place at the marijuana dispensary today. I looked around, and saw all of these shorts, and bare feet in sandals. Since I am mussing chunks of my feet, I will not fit in here.

[PA5COR]

We're done with winter for the next 14 days, temps going up to 9 C daytime and 6 C nights, more rain then since western winds seem to do that here....

[KG4CGC]

60's and 70's till Saturday. I'll be treating for fire ants.

[KC9ECI]

80 degree swing here. over 40F and shits melting. Crazy foggy out today.

[kb2crk]

68 degree F here today and still climbing.

[AA1OH]

Ya I know-I am going to miss the 70/80 degree weather coming up as I am getting on a greyhound to Texas in a few hours to look at, and hopefully bring back, a 92 Foretravel Grand villa 36 footer. Should be back in the 40's when I get home.

[KG4CGC]

Sebenty too degrees today. Went for a ride.

[WZ7U]

Butt freeze is here and MOTS till at least Tuesday. Damn...

[N1LAF]

Cold and snow will return soon. Interesting read (now permalinked bookmark)
Arctic Oscillation and Polar Vortex Analysis and Forecasts (https://www.aer.com/science-research/climate-weather/arctic-oscillation/)

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- The GFS is predicting that over the next two weeks, ridging/positive geopotential height anomalies centered south of the Aleutians are predicted to force downstream troughing/negative geopotential height anomalies and relatively cold temperatures across much of Canada and the Western US with ridging and relatively mild temperatures for the Eastern US. However, the ECMWF model has been predicting a colder solution for the Eastern US and I describe in the Impacts section my reasoning for favoring the ECMWF solution.

Impacts

- The GFS model is still predicting that generally this pattern of Arctic temperatures to continue. Therefore, based on the GFS forecast I would argue that even if the impacts from the stratospheric PV disruption continue to descend from the stratosphere to the surface that favor cold in the Eastern US and Europe, the cold can only be transient as warming focused in the Barents Kara Seas favors the most consistent cold across Northern Asia. However, the ECMWF model is predicting colder temperatures in at least the Northeastern US than the GFS with the trough axis across North America further east relative to the GFS.

- I favor the ECMWF solution, but I have to admit my reasoning even though is based on ideas that I have discussed before are still fairly speculative so those of a faint of heart might want to skip ahead. As I have discussed previously often the stratospheric polar vortex (PV) center has a reflection in the troposphere. The stratospheric PV is currently centered over Svalbard and is predicted, or a lobe of the PV is predicted, to be centered over or near the Barents-Kara Seas. A polar low in the troposphere would bring colder temperatures to the Barents Kara Seas. An end to the focus of Arctic warming in this region could allow for greater warming elsewhere in the Arctic including near Alaska and possibly over across to Greenland. This would favor an eastward shift of the cold temperatures across North America more consistent with the ECMWF forecast. If I am correct that a tropospheric polar low could set up in the Barents-Kara Seas/Scandinavia region, this does not favor cold but rather mild temperatures for much of Europe.

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We shall see... site worth looking at.

[WØTKX]

Another 6" today, it's nice to see to avoid drought

Snow blowin' along...

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[kb2crk]

Supposed to get to almost 80 today. Back to below freezing tomorrow

[KD8TUT]

My 2 feet of snow has all but melted away.

[PA5COR]

+8 C here sunny with a rain shower mixed in for the fun.
( 46 F for you sinners...) :mrgreen:

[KG4CGC]

I haven't run the heat in days. Tonight it comes back on. Last night I slept with a fan indirectly moving air towards me.
Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday have all been in the mid to high 70's depend on your specific location just in a small area around the Upstate. New thermometer said 80º but I suspect I need to slide the glass down about 2º to get it closer to accurate. I will see what it says when the temps drop. I will also probably get another, different thermometer just for comparison. My old one gave out. I should say, the UV coating on the plastic had worn away, broke down and the plastic started to deteriorate and disappear. I spent 3 weeks adjusting the glass on that unit until I was happy with the calibration.

[N1LAF]

Predictions (US):NOAA (https://www.weather.gov/ffc/WinterOutlook20182019) - Generally warm to neutral.
Joe at Weatherbell (https://local21news.com/news/videos/our-guest-meteorologist-joe-bastardis-winter-prediction) - Long cold winter

We will know who was closer at the end of winter.



So, what's the verdict?

Center of cold this winter was centered more between the west and midwest, and not the east. Southeast warmer than rest of US.

Looks like Colorado got blasted.

Cold & Snowy or warmer than normal? Guess it depends where you live. Looks like everyone got this winter wrong. (Except Cor with Europe).

[NQ6U]

Wet and (relatively) cold down here in the extreme southwest corner this winter. Nighttime temps below freezing right down to sea level for a few days in January, which is uncommon.

[WZ7U]

Nighttime temps below freezing right down to sea level for a few days in January, which is uncommon.

Same here at 40' asl. But, I am back upriver 35 miles. And quite a ways farther North. That's weird weather Carl, did you get frozen spray on the hull?

[PA5COR]

Winter in Europe was warm, some snow mainly in the Alps, moist, and February almost like spring with lots of sun and arm temps.
Till now March dumped 4 inches of rain, which we needed after the dry 2018 year, now turning to sunny end and warmer last weeks of March.

[N8YX]

Things got warm and spinny around here yesterday. TOR-warned cell moved through the county just south of me; near the area I used to live and work in. A number of my friends were in its path, but so far I haven't heard of any damages.

[NQ6U]

Same here at 40' asl. But, I am back upriver 35 miles. And quite a ways farther North. That's weird weather Carl, did you get frozen spray on the hull?

No, the water was too warm for that, but there was ice formed on the docks a few mornings. That took a lot of people by surprise—and caused a couple of falls—because it’s just not something that’s expected to happen here.

[KG4CGC]

Typical Springtime pattern but on the warm side.
It's only rained twice here. First time from May 4th to August 12th. Second time from September 1st to now and it's coming down pretty good.

[X-Rated]

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Here's a view of the Mississippi river from the Iowa side at the mouth of the Rock River. The Rock is the highest I have seen it of the last 5 years. This is snow melt in action.

[N8YX]

Charles, Luke, Jim and anyone else in the SC/NC/VA/MD areas...stay sharp today. SPC says you're going to get severe WX this afternoon.

[WZ7U]

Here yesterday was the nicest day of the year so far. Mid 70's and mostly sunny. Right now, normal rain. Probably only a quarter inch by tonight if we're lucky.

Hope y'all out East don't get whacked.

[PA5COR]

Since a week, sunny temps above 20 C, yesterday the first summerday in the country with 25.3 C, will keep on for the ext week.
Country is full of tourists, here Germans hiring sailing boats/yachts to act as if they can actually sail...
Beaches are full, beach bars will have a splendid week-end.

[KG4CGC]

Charles, Luke, Jim and anyone else in the SC/NC/VA/MD areas...stay sharp today. SPC says you're going to get severe WX this afternoon.

Got pretty stormy with breaks of sunshine between bouts of battering rain and wind. Tornado warnings went out.
Soon as it was over the temp dropped to a chill.

[N8YX]

Any of our members on and near a line from Lubbock, TX to Tulsa, OK would be wise to keep a sharp eye on the sky today. SPC has a High Risk Day 1 up for that area and this includes the possibility of violent, long-tracked tornadoes.

[suddenseer]

My first in awhile. I am enjoying mid o0's day, low 70's at might. The storm in the Atlantic will start sucking the moisture from the air tomorrow. We will see very dry air, and mid 90's the rest of the week.i got to see my first summertime 5:00 pm storm. It rains like crazy for 30 minutes, partly cloudy. The sun pops back out, and in 30 minutes, the pavement is all dry again.
Remember, our favorite news stories always begins with, "a Florida man"....

[kb2vxa]

Don't forget that when the grass comes up Ahiya turns steamy. That's why they have the big hamfester early, or with that oppressive heat and humidity making it feel like you're in a bag, nobody would come. Oh, I doubt I'm the only one who passed through toxic gas clouds released by sprayed liquid pig poop in the farmland on the way to the big fester.

Life gets bearable in spring and autumn, I'm at that age when my comfort zone has narrowed. I don't know which is worse, winter's foggy freeze or the dragon breath winds of summer. I get a laugh out of the prognosticators, the latest is the "upcoming T storms" based on today's tornadic activities in the Midwest likely to evaporate over eastern Pennsylvania. Then when it gets hot and steamy they'll say they expect sunshine when bubbles of hot humid air rise through the thermocline producing "popcorn" T storms that evaporate within minutes.

Hmmm, funny how I'm teaching my spell checker meteorological terms.
Fascinating. I'm trying to forecast weather using stone knives and bear skins.

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[KG4CGC]

Already setting up to be a hot Summer. Expecting high 90's starting tomorrow and through the foreseeable future.
Rain ... has declined. Yep, after a year of rain, 68+ inches, haven't seen any substantial rain in almost a week. Two weeks before that the rain slowed to a very noticeable degree. If it gets hot and stays hot, the area could very very well dry up despite the surplus.

[WZ7U]

Don't forget that when the grass comes up Ahiya turns steamy. That's why they have the big hamfester early, or with that oppressive heat and humidity making it feel like you're in a bag, nobody would come. Oh, I doubt I'm the only one who passed through toxic gas clouds released by sprayed liquid pig poop in the farmland on the way to the big fester.

Life gets bearable in spring and autumn, I'm at that age when my comfort zone has narrowed. I don't know which is worse, winter's foggy freeze or the dragon breath winds of summer. I get a laugh out of the prognosticators, the latest is the "upcoming T storms" based on today's tornadic activities in the Midwest likely to evaporate over eastern Pennsylvania. Then when it gets hot and steamy they'll say they expect sunshine when bubbles of hot humid air rise through the thermocline producing "popcorn" T storms that evaporate within minutes.

Hmmm, funny how I'm teaching my spell checker meteorological terms.
Fascinating. I'm trying to forecast weather using stone knives and bear skins.

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That was probably one of THE best Star Trek episodes ever.

No, I haven't had time to repair my signature yet, but thanks for the file Warren.

[NQ6U]

I believe that the only legitimate response to the weather we’ve been experiencing here in California lately is “What kind of bullshit is this, anyway?”

[PA5COR]

Just what the Germans asked getting 4 to 6 inches of rain in a few hours in already soaked ground and rivers and brooks already full from melting snow.... more damage control, flooded houses bridges down etc.
Here? first month in 14 months which will not be too warm, still large shortage in rain, the story continues...

[NQ6U]

It's raining again.

[KG4CGC]

It's raining again.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqMEEvmfyQU

[koØm]

Tornado touched down 50 miles north of here in Dayton, Ohio; my son and his family dodge the bullet.

[KG4CGC]

Tornado touched down 50 miles north of here in Dayton, Ohio; my son and his family dodge the bullet.
The Hara arena venue didn't fare as well. Some say that's a good thing.


Here at home, the heat is high and humidity is low. Mix that with blast oven like breezes and the yard is drying up. The grass is crunchy and turning brown. My, how quickly things have changed.

[WZ7U]

AAAAAARRGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!! The sun came out! Shit! I miss my clouds and rain and its only the end of May

[KC9ECI]

Went camping this weekend. NWS dropped a tornado warning for 6 miles south of where I was set up and all I got was a little light rain and clouds.

[KG4CGC]

Ohio:

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[WZ7U]

Fuuuucck

[N8YX]

I have a friend in Delaware and another couple of friends in Englewood. They dodged some big bullets.

[AA1OH]

We are sitting here in our 4th day at a 100 plus/no rain/no clouds in central Georgia.

[NQ6U]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqMEEvmfyQU

He lies.

[PA5COR]

Expecting 30C this weekend, place crawling with tourists.....
Keep the tornado's there, we have our own here....;)

[KG4CGC]

89ºF today. Feels kind of cool.

[PA5COR]

Nice day sunny, cut the grass again in the morning before it became too hot, got my annual gun check from thee police, enjoying my new telly, LG 49 8500 PLA
Old one, Philips now serves as monitor for my son in 43 Inch...
Temp today 25 C tomorrow 30 or 30+ C...

[WZ7U]

You get an annual cheque from the police for your guns? They're paying you to have your guns? I wanna move there! :lol:

[PA5COR]

No just one visit a year to see if the guns and ammo are stored correctly unannounced.
Since 30 years that goes without a problem, in August renewal of the license for the M1 .30 US carbine and handguns in .22 LR and .357M , they are always impressed with the Desert Eagle... don't know why...:mrgreen:

[WZ7U]

Probably because it makes Harry Callahan look like a wanna be.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirty_Harry_(character)

[PA5COR]

Bought my Desert Eagle before it became famous in movies though, fits y hand nice, and i have never been afraid of big bore handguns.
Back to weather:
A level 2 was issued for parts of Eastern France, parts of Benelux and Western parts of Germany for mainly for large hail, severe wind gusts, and tornados.
See? you get a few days nice sunny warm weather and the sh*t hits the fan....

[N8YX]

It's raining here.

Again.

And the handgun you want is a Wildey, in either 44 Auto-Mag or 475 Wildey Mag. The original AMT Auto-Mag (which Harry Callahan used in 'Sudden Impact') was noted for frequently fouling its gas operated feeding system. The Wildey product (now back on the market after Evan retired and sold the business to his family) doesn't suffer these ills.

[PA5COR]

Had the S&W 629 Classic DX in .44 Magnum factory tuned, won for 5 years every competition internally in our gun club, sold it then because the fun was gone.
The Desert Eagle needs jacketed bullets, otherwise the gas channel fauls up too, and is a bitch to get cleaned.
after 20 years the gas piston broke off the slide, TIG welded it to the slide myself keeping the rest of the slide cool, works fine like new since that time.

Most my shooting now is done with the Walther GSP .22LR target pistol...
The Carbine or handguns mostly taken for a second round on the indoor range.
Don't think the Wildley is available here, though it can be imported at wish by an registered gun trader here if need be.

I think I'll stick to what i have, have all the reloading stuff for it set up, using one powder Vihtavuori N110 for USM1 .30 Carbine and both .357 M handguns.
It's their fastest riflee powder works fine in handguns like the .357M and .44M types, even have reload data for it.
https://www.vihtavuori.com/powder/n110-rifle-powder/

[KG4CGC]

Last night it was cold.