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    The ham as conversationist and technologist

    Ur 599 hr in Desperate, CO. Name Art. Hw cpy OM?
    FB Art. Ur 559 hr in Depression, TX. Name Bill. Running 50w to a dipole.

    You can probably predict the last few lines of such a "conversation" and maybe even lament the predictability of such a limited exchange. More prevalent on CW than with other modes, these dialogues can be even more abbreviated during contests in the voice and data sub-bands. You can hear true conversations with the voice and data modes on any given day, particularly the groups of three or more hams on 75 meters in the evenings when more participants can copy one another. You'll find their counterparts in the web conference modes and Echolink. However, do hams tinker with electronics for the social aspects of the hobby or the technical?

    In the past few years I've become more interested in the technical than in the social facets of radio comms. From what I can gather, the first hams were intrigued with the idea of using radio waves to send signals wirelessly. Without the need for telephone or telegraph lines, it was possible to send and receive information through the air using designs published in popular journals and from parts found in mail-order catalogs and scrounged from around the home. Although primitive, it was possible to communicate with other hams hundreds or even thousands of miles away. You could impress non-ham friends and family with QSL cards...people who at that time were more likely to be astonished that you could even hear or "speak" with someone so far away than with whatever was actually communicated. These days, with instant communication anywhere on the planet only a few keystrokes away, and available to anyone with a few bucks to spend, the media used are less important than the message. Most hams no longer attempt to impress family or friends with their DX contacts. Instead, they generally are asked "what did you talk about?" You'll probably try to change the subject at that point. "Hey, no monthly fees!" Or, "See that little wire in the tree? I did it with only that!" (And a thousand bucks worth of radio.) However, I'm once again intrigued with the technical aspect of the hobby, and I'm only trying to impress myself. How can I establish a communications link over long distances with the least RF power?

    I got back into the hobby around 1990 (after about 15 years QRT) with QRP CW rigs that I build from designs published mostly in 73 magazine. With just a few inexpensive, readily available parts I could assemble small radios capable of communicating thousands of miles. This was truly a challenge given that I lived in a townhome at the time: no yard, and talk about HOA restrictions. But with a couple watts and a loop nailed to the rafters in the attic, I easily worked stations on this continent and occasionally in Asia and Europe. With a two-meter HT, a computer, and a J-pole suspended by a string in the aforementioned attic, I even exchanged a packet message with the space station. Although I did enjoy occasionally chewing the rag with other hams, the prime motivator for me was hearing weak signals and deciphering enough information to understand where the other guy was and what gear he was using. I assume similar motivation for the other ham. What we had in common was that interest in the vagaries of RF propagation, simple equipment, and an understanding of how all that stuff worked (or didn't).

    Over the years since, I've built on that interest with what various software geniuses have been doing with weak-signal HF communications. For example, Joe Taylor (K1JT) developed very robust software for EME and VHF/UHF experiments in weak-signal recovery. Variations of this software are now being used for weak-signal HF communications. A signal can be retrieved with strengths in the -27 dB range. In the WSPR system, a wholly automated exchange of low-power stations is globally mapped (http://wsprnet.org/drupal/node) with the information broken out by band, time-periods, station location, km/watt, etc. No conversations...just data regarding RF propagation and power (generally, how low can you go and still achieve basic contact?). This is not the sort of ham radio that appeals to those enjoy good ragchews. But even those folks can get into the act with other software.

    Robust, soundcard-based data modes like Olivia, MFSK, MT-63, DominoEX and a host of others are cheap (or free), will run on the most basic home computer, require modest HF gear, and let you enjoy a good conversation and, at the same time, pique your curiosity about establishing communications that would be difficult, maybe impossible, using more familiar modes like CW or SSB. I've used Olivia to have conversations over half an hour with Australian or European hams when I wasn't sure if I was even hearing their signal or picking up a reasonably visible trace on the waterfall screen. That's why protocols are being established so that hams can "park" their rigs on a particular frequency to await a CQ that they can't see or hear.

    Although I still have fun restoring and using old boat anchors, and CW is still my preferred mode when I just want to relax and listen to that rhythmical sound, I am intrigued by the ingenuity of those who develop these low-power and inexpensive means to recover intelligence from weak signals distorted by a mishmash of atmospheric hash and who provide these tools to the rest of us to experiment with. I'd like to think that I'm as fascinated as those hams of yesteryear with their spark-gap transmitters and coherers picking up a signal from far away.

    So, what intrigues you most about the hobby?

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    Quote Originally Posted by w0aew View Post
    Ur 599 hr in Desperate, CO. Name Art. Hw cpy OM?
    FB Art. Ur 559 hr in Depression, TX. Name Bill. Running 50w to a dipole.


    So, what intrigues you most about the hobby?
    I once heard a speech from a man who said if you are being bored by a boring person study what makes them boring. The largest area of study I have found is ham radio
    Apparently you are the same as virtually all of your comment concentrates on the technology over the person

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    I experimented with antenna's for my tiny plot of land, and chose 160 meters as favourite band, just to annoy myself with a heap of trouble putting in 3000 feet of radials in every nook and cranny here and where neighbours allowd me to do my gopher work.

    Why make it yourself easy? i build enough stuff myself over the last 48 years of my 60 year life, i'm on phone on H.F. and 6 meters, 2/70 lost my interest after 30 years and activety there dropped like a stone when all license classes got access to (partial) HF bands.

    I;m listeing 99% of the time just make the odd qso if i hear a nice station, hoping to have a longer chat and not the standard 5/9 see ya...
    Just want to hear from the others what they have,how they solved problems and learn from it.

    Just looking for how the propagation is and works, and what my puny station can do.
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    I'm a ragchewer. Nothing pleases me more than working a DX station that has an interest in having a conversation, sharing cross cultural jokes, song lyrics and poetry. This tends to happen when the bands are very open, and have been for days. 17 and 12 meters, sometimes 30, 15, and 10. Asking somebody if they know a good joke on CW or digital is cool.

    It's kind of rare, but really fun when it happens.
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    I'm into SSTV for the girlie pictures.
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    Quote Originally Posted by N8YX View Post
    I'm into SSTV for the girlie pictures.
    Even TubGirl?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KJ3N View Post
    Even TubGirl?
    That would take a while to send at 30sec/frame and I don't have all darned day...
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    "Where would we be without the agitators of the world to attach the electrodes
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    I was thinking yesterday about starting a thread about this very same thing!

    The thing that spurred it (at about 3AM) was that I seem to be on a spending spree right now upgrading my bench gear. Out with the old generators and stuffsuch--in with the new. Just bought a Gigatronics/Fluke RF deck, jockeying about for a spectrum analyzer, and doing serious research on sweep generators. Why?

    My conclusion was simple. At the end of the day I could care less if I actually get on the air or not. Give me a boatanchor and I'm good for a month doing a complete rehab on it. Maybe this is really my hobby? Give me a broken one and it gets even better!
    Give a man a fish, and he will eat it. Teach a man to fish and he will spend lots of money on tackle...

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    Quote Originally Posted by AE1PT View Post
    At the end of the day I could care less if I actually get on the air or not. Give me a boatanchor and I'm good for a month doing a complete rehab on it. Maybe this is really my hobby? Give me a broken one and it gets even better!
    This is one of the reasons - if not the main reason - why I'm involved with amateur radio: It gives the electronics tinkerer in me a goal. Operation is merely icing on the cake.
    "Everyone wants to be an AM Gangsta until it's time to start doing AM Gangsta shit."

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