Gas mileage of ethanol-added gasoline?

[KG4CGC]

Screw Carbon Neutral.

You saw that and jumped on it?

For anyone who thinks it is not, go back a read all 4 pages. Then look up where ethanol comes from. The plant matter it came from recycles carbon already present in the air. It doesn't take billions years old carbon out of the ground and add it to already present carbon.

[N2CHX]

You saw that and jumped on it?

For anyone who thinks it is not, go back a read all 4 pages. Then look up where ethanol comes from. The plant matter it came from recycles carbon already present in the air. It doesn't take billions years old carbon out of the ground and add it to already present carbon.

Yeah but... Corn needs massive amounts of fertilizer. And fertilizer uses natural gas to manufacture it, among other things. After reading the process in which corn is grown to make ethanol, and the process in which fertilizer is made to grow the corn, I'd say using plain old fossil fuel is actually better for the environment.

Corn-based ethanol for fuel is retarded.

[KG4CGC]

Yeah but... Corn needs massive amounts of fertilizer. And fertilizer uses natural gas to manufacture it, among other things. After reading the process in which corn is grown to make ethanol, and the process in which fertilizer is made to grow the corn, I'd say using plain old fossil fuel is actually better for the environment.

Corn-based ethanol for fuel is retarded.

As stated earlier, the corn squeezins' help reduce photochemical pollution. We could as easily use sugar beets or whatever. Want to really use something versatile? Hemp is the most Earth friendly and produces a pharmacopeia of other medicines.
I completely disagree with your statement except for the part about factory agriculture.
ETA: Monsanto is the reason we have factory agriculture and seed patents, which is absolute horseshit right there. They've developed the strains that require the type and amount of fertilizer required. This is the damage and we used to grow corn without all that bullshit.

[N2CHX]

As stated earlier, the corn squeezins' help reduce photochemical pollution. We could as easily use sugar beets or whatever. Want to really use something versatile? Hemp is the most Earth friendly and produces a pharmacopeia of other medicines.
I completely disagree with your statement except for the part about factory agriculture.
ETA: Monsanto is the reason we have factory agriculture and seed patents, which is absolute horseshit right there. They've developed the strains that require the type and amount of fertilizer required. This is the damage and we used to grow corn without all that bullshit.

Well, until the methods used to grow such massive amounts of corn are changed, I still think burning fossil fuel is more environmentally friendly.

[n2ize]

Silly government. Everyone with common sense knows ethanol is for drinking. Not for burning in cars.

[KG4CGC]

Well, until the methods used to grow such massive amounts of corn are changed, I still think burning fossil fuel is more environmentally friendly.

Well, you're a big doodie head.

[N2CHX]

Well, you're a big doodie head.

Yeah, well... You are a loincloth chomping abysmal bucket of sludge who likes to fry up the teletubbie rubbing zombie and the flatulating ass muncher.

[KG4CGC]

Yeah, well... You are a loincloth chomping abysmal bucket of sludge who likes to fry up the teletubbie rubbing zombie and the flatulating ass muncher.

I am not Jerry Falwell!

[N2CHX]

I am not Jerry Falwell!

Quit being so stupid, you capitalist skanky fanatic who is jealous of the smelly bitch and the skanky bird brain.

[KG4CGC]

"You vacuous, toffee-nosed, malodorous pervert!"