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    Ethanol E85

    Anyone running this in their vehicles? If so, how do you find the performance and/or mileage compares to conventional fuel. How convenient is it to get to an ethanol station in your area?
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    I don't run it, but my neighbor does.

    He's found the mileage is lower, but the E85 is cheaper; so economics for him, it's a wash, unless gas prices shoot up again. 2.95/gal for E85 vs. 3.65/gal for gasoline.

    As for how convenient? We have about 10 gas stations that pump it, so with some planning, he's good to go E85 only. It's not too big a deal, because he can pump gasoline as well.
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    My Diesel engine doesn't like it ;)
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    Quote Originally Posted by PA5COR View Post
    My Diesel engine doesn't like it ;)
    Yeah, but with a teensy tiny bit of work, your diesel engine will like used vegetable oil :)
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    Quote Originally Posted by PA5COR View Post
    My Diesel engine doesn't like it ;)
    I never understood why Americans didnt jump on the Diesel wagon long ago. Diesel is far better then Gas
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    Quote Originally Posted by W2IBC View Post
    I never understood why Americans didnt jump on the Diesel wagon long ago. Diesel is far better then Gas
    I'll give you two guesses...
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    Quote Originally Posted by W2IBC View Post
    I never understood why Americans didnt jump on the Diesel wagon long ago. Diesel is far better then Gas
    How is it better than gasoline ?
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    Diesel taxes are higher, and the new low sulfur EPA rules make it more expensive to refine than in days gone by. The crappy US passengar car diesel designs in the 80's turned the public quite sour to them. European diesel development continued... the new motors are clean, efficient and powerful, especially in these newer small displacement motors.

    Anybody here drive the new Ford truck diesels? They kick ass. But you can't get the 65mpg Ford Fiesta diesel in the US!

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    Automakers such as Volkswagen (VLKAY) and Mercedes-Benz (DAI) have predicted for years that a technology called "clean diesel" would overcome many Americans' antipathy to a fuel still often thought of as the smelly stuff that powers tractor trailers. Diesel vehicles now hitting the market with pollution-fighting technology are as clean or cleaner than gasoline and at least 30% more fuel-efficient.

    Yet while half of all cars sold in Europe last year ran on diesel, the U.S. market remains relatively unfriendly to the fuel. Taxes aimed at commercial trucks mean diesel costs anywhere from 40 cents to $1 more per gallon than gasoline. Add to this the success of the Toyota Prius, and you can see why only 3% of cars in the U.S. use diesel. "Americans see hybrids as the darling," says Global Insight auto analyst Philip Gott, "and diesel as old-tech."


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    Do what any self respecting hippie would do, drive a hemp car. :)
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