Quote Originally Posted by kf0rt View Post
< snip >What kills me is kitchens. HOLY COW! Go into Home Depot and replacing cabinets (including labor) for a place like this (maybe 12 cabinets?) would be $10K+. $1K per cabinet is the going rate? I'm thinking I could buy the cabinets for $2500 and learn a trade for the other $7500. Even then... what makes a kitchen cabinet worth $200? 5 minutes of labor and $20 in materials crunched out on a computerized saw?

I must be getting old to notice this. Kitchen here is original (36 years old), so it's "on the list." But so are three bathrooms.
Well, at our previous QTH, we looked into a kitchen remodel. This was circa mid 2001. Home Depot's estimate at the time was around $12 K. There's a local outfit called The Woods that heavily advertises, so we had someone come out for an estimate. Good looking brunette in high heels (made her my height) and a tight outfit... I may be married, I'm not dead, and you notice these things... clearly expensive designer stuff. Meant to impress us, it didn't. Anyway, her rough estimate was about $18 K, and she was supposed to get back to us with a firm estimate and layout -- she never did (how do these outfits stay in business when they stiff customers like that?) Another local outfit, Kitchens by Dial, quoted us around $14 K -- and they do good work, NB3C's parents had their kitchen remodeled by Dial, and it did look great.

Now, by comparison, one of my wife's cousins & his wife had started a little remodeling business. She did the design work, he did the installation. Their cost? $5 K -- and that was WITHOUT a family discount. Had I not lost my job at the end of the year in a layoff, we would have gone with them.

BTW, Depot now sells pre-assembled cabinets. If you're willing to do the work yourself, it's well worth it. Is the quality as good as the $15 K kitchen? They'll tell you no, but as someone who used to work there and dealt with this stuff everyday, the answer is "it depends, but usually, not quite but not enough of a difference that you'd ever really notice"