Remember that nut cake woman astronaut?

[n2ize]

Puhleeez. Just another shameless woman who got away with crap for a half-century until she met her limitation. I've seen enough of her kind of B*TCH and I do not feel the least bit sorry when they finally hit the wall.

Well, I have to beg to differ. First we don't know much about her other than what we read in the article. Maybe she wasn't a bitch. For all we know she was a crazy sort of "happy go lucky" prankster who finally pulled a fatal prank. I knew a girl like that in college. She'd go through all lengths to pull crazy pranks. It was all in fun. I even told her that one day she's gonna get hurt (or arrested) with some of the pranks she pulls. So the same could be true of this woman. She even looks like the type who would go through great lengths to pull a joke. I mean cmon... climbing through a chimney like Santa ? That doesn't sound bitchy or malicious. I'd probably have died laughing if I had a girl friend drop through the fireplace to see me. Unfortunately in this case her prank cost her life. And , I still say she looks pretty good for a 50 year old. I'd have hit on that...when she was still living.

I've had women break into my apartment, set fire to my door, send mail threatening to kill me, write my name and phone number with lurid made up details on my subway station, do the same to the girl I was with in the mens rooms of a college, stalk me, send people to f with me, and show up at my door at 3AM demanding to be let in. I even had one stalking me for over a decade while convincing everyone the reverse was happening.

Well, either you're exaggerating or, you knew some very very very bizarre women. I've known some pretty strange women over the years, but never had any problems. Now, it could be that I'm not very romantic so maybe women don't feel any sense of jealousy or attachment to me. I don't know. But I have friends who are typical romantic types and none have ever reported such issues. Even this one guy I knew who dated criminal types and knew a couple with raging streaks of extreme jealousy and bitterness. I'm not denying what you say happened, but I don't think it's fair to assume that women generally act this way or that this woman in the article was behaving in such a manner out of malice.

You know who I feel sorry for? This guy who she put through hell. Up until then, I'll guarantee you that everybody was convinced "the bad man" did something to her to make her do this.

What, come down the chimney like Santa ? You've got to be kidding. That's not hell, thats pure comedy. If anything this dame was a prankster,

They're supposed to be our equals. So when does society start treating them as such and stop slapping them on the wrist?
Or will we still have the Victorian attitude of "Poor Misguided Girl" for another few centuries while this kind of thing keeps going on?

Because more often than not the law does not like to get involved with boyfriend /girlfriend, husband/wife, disputes. Can't say I blame them. And, while their are exceptions, more often than not it's the male, beating, abusing, killing, the female than the other way around. So its natural to fall into the assumption that the male is at fault. And often that assumption turns out correct. But not always. Also, women do go to jail for stalking, abuse, murder, vandalism, etc. It's not always a slap on the wrist. Jealous women often take their anger out on inanimate objects owned by the person they cannot get over. I knew one guy who had a jealous girl friend come into his apartment when he wasn't home. She smashed things, broke things, tore up his clothes, and took a few items that she felt she was entitled to. She was arrested and she got a lot more than just a slap on the wrist.

I really think the solution is not a matter of law. We have to teach people not to take things so seriously. A relationship goes bad, get over it, let it go. It's just another person, there are millions upon millions more. heck, you lose one girl friend/boy friend, you find another tomorrow. What's the big deal ? Human beings are all pretty much anatomically identical. One works just like the other. Matter of fact, many of them even look the same in general. Broken hearts, jealousy, rivalry, getting even, etc. is for idiots. One relationship is just like the next. Matter of fact its boring. We need to teach people that relationships are superficial. When it ends, let it go.

[N2NH]

Well, either you're exaggerating or, you knew some very very very bizarre women. ...When it ends, let it go.

I never exaggerate. Especially when NHE was there for some of that and can back it up. Heck, I never got to the three that were using witchcraft, the one that tried putting the "white powder" in my food (it just got me sick rather than do it's real purpose) and never mentioned the whole story of the one that set fire to my door.

The night that my ex set fire to my door at 3:30AM, one of my other ex's was hiding in the back stairs to see if I was coming out, another was in a car across the street seeing if she could head me off if I went out. When ex #3 comes along and empties a can of lighter fluid on my door and sets it off (the grainy surveillance tape couldn't pick her out, but it did catch that). I heard a noise at the door and saw the flames through my peephole. My girl wakes up and I hand her a towel to beat out the flames while I called 911. A dozen fire engines and a couple of cop cars responded when they heard I was a LEO. The ex in the Jeep across the street got hemmed in by the fire trucks and started freaking from what she told my friend. This was after she got caught stalking me on the job by my boss who threatened to arrest her. The ex in the back almost fell down the stairs when she saw the flames, which is how I found out she was there. Needless to say, Fire girle didn't even get a slap on the wrist.

Then there was the time my girl went to the precinct to make a complaint about the ex. A guy walked in a few minutes later to complain about his girlfriend stalking him despite a court order. He was accompanied by a woman. When the female desk sergeant asked him if he knew where his girlfriend was, he said yes. She's right there and pointed to the woman who had followed him in. The female cop was incredulous, but they arrested her on the spot. I would've really liked to see how that one played in court...

I can assure you I've heard some real strange stories, but they're hardly confined to my experiences.

You really think this was a 'harmless' prank?

I don't.

[n2ize]

I never exaggerate. Especially when NHE was there for some of that and can back it up. Heck, I never got to the three that were using witchcraft, the one that tried putting the "white powder" in my food (it just got me sick rather than do it's real purpose) and never mentioned the whole story of the one that set fire to my door.

The night that my ex set fire to my door at 3:30AM, one of my other ex's was hiding in the back stairs to see if I was coming out, another was in a car across the street seeing if she could head me off if I went out. When ex #3 comes along and empties a can of lighter fluid on my door and sets it off (the grainy surveillance tape couldn't pick her out, but it did catch that). I heard a noise at the door and saw the flames through my peephole. My girl wakes up and I hand her a towel to beat out the flames while I called 911. A dozen fire engines and a couple of cop cars responded when they heard I was a LEO. The ex in the Jeep across the street got hemmed in by the fire trucks and started freaking from what she told my friend. This was after she got caught stalking me on the job by my boss who threatened to arrest her. The ex in the back almost fell down the stairs when she saw the flames, which is how I found out she was there. Needless to say, Fire girle didn't even get a slap on the wrist.

Then there was the time my girl went to the precinct to make a complaint about the ex. A guy walked in a few minutes later to complain about his girlfriend stalking him despite a court order. He was accompanied by a woman. When the female desk sergeant asked him if he knew where his girlfriend was, he said yes. She's right there and pointed to the woman who had followed him in. The female cop was incredulous, but they arrested her on the spot. I would've really liked to see how that one played in court...

I can assure you I've heard some real strange stories, but they're hardly confined to my experiences.

Well, what can i say ? Your story does indeed sound hard to believe. I mean, poisoners, arsonists, stalkers, and not one but 3 witches to boot ? Were these witches trying to cast spells ? 3 different women prowling around your home at the same exact time, each of them trying to get you in a different way....simultaneously nonetheless ? I counted at least 10 different ways they tried to get you and at least 8+ different women involved.

I'm not saying it didn't happen but at the same time I can't help but finding the story a bit hard to digest.

You really think this was a 'harmless' prank?
I don't.

I think the whole story about the doctor sounds a bit odd. I mean, he see's her go up the roof with a ladder and starts coming down the chimney of his own house so he runs out the door yet nobody notifies the cops ? Nobody noticed she never came out the other end of the chimney ? Then 3 days later they call the cops when the body starts rotting and stinks up the place ? I don't know about this case. Sounds a bit phony to me..

[N2NH]

Well, what can i say ? Your story does indeed sound hard to believe. I mean, poisoners, arsonists, stalkers, and not one but 3 witches to boot ? Were these witches trying to cast spells ? 3 different women prowling around your home at the same exact time, each of them trying to get you in a different way....simultaneously nonetheless ? I counted at least 10 different ways they tried to get you and at least 8+ different women involved.

I never said simultaneously. But there were 3 and each used their own brand of witchcraft. As far as poisoning me, that was an unintended side effect. The white powder is used by many women in the Caribbean to control wayward spouses or if the want to hang on to them. It's African in origin.

not saying it didn't happen but at the same time I can't help but finding the story a bit hard to digest.

Ah. Your mistake is using logic in this situation. The first thing that goes out the window when you deal with women is logic. The one who set fire to the door had at least 5 fights over me with women she felt were encroaching on her "turf" in a year. Nothing I set up, nor was it anything I wanted, but she was very jealous and physical.

I think the whole story about the doctor sounds a bit odd. I mean, he see's her go up the roof with a ladder and starts coming down the chimney of his own house so he runs out the door yet nobody notifies the cops ? Nobody noticed she never came out the other end of the chimney ? Then 3 days later they call the cops when the body starts rotting and stinks up the place ? I don't know about this case. Sounds a bit phony to me..

That's assuming he knew. That's assuming he's responsible for her poor choice of entry. That's assuming that men are always ultimately responsible for a woman's actions. Poor Misguided Child. Which of the bad men made you do it?

Yeh. Thanks for proving my point.

[n2ize]

I never said simultaneously.

Yes you did. You said there was one setting fire to the door while another was hiding out by the back stairs while another was waiting in a car across the street. You even said they bumped into each other. I assume this happened in NYC ? The FDNY sent out a dozen units instead of the normal required 2+2+1 response for the box ?

But there were 3 and each used their own brand of witchcraft.

That I can believe. Back in the 60's there was a TV show about a guy who was married to a witch. So I guess anythings possible.

As far as poisoning me, that was an unintended side effect. The white powder is used by many women in the Caribbean to control wayward spouses or if the want to hang on to them. It's African in origin.


Ah. Your mistake is using logic in this situation. The first thing that goes out the window when you deal with women is logic. The one who set fire to the door had at least 5 fights over me with women she felt were encroaching on her "turf" in a year. Nothing I set up, nor was it anything I wanted, but she was very jealous and physical.

I'm not trying to say it didn't happen. All kinds of things are possible in this world. But it does sound strange to me. Then again, most of my relationships were extremely superficial.

That's assuming he knew. That's assuming he's responsible for her poor choice of entry. That's assuming that men are always ultimately responsible for a woman's actions. Poor Misguided Child. Which of the bad men made you do it?

Yeh. Thanks for proving my point.

Well, if what the article says is true then he sure as hell knew she was coming on down as he left the house to avoid her. Funny thing...he didn't call the police until 3 days later ? If I knew someone was breaking into my house the first thing I'd do is call the cops. Then there was a ladder up the house, the chimney cap removed, but nobody came out the other end ? My skeptical mind is not amused.

[ab1ga]

I don't know if anybody knows about chimneys in that locale, but something puzzles me.

I readily admit that my 50+ inch circumference prevents me from sliding through anything smaller than a railroad tunnel, but when I look at the top of my chimney, with its magnificent 8-inch flue, I find it hard to believe that even the spindliest of ectomorphs could wind up two feet above the interior opening, i.e. just above the smoke shelf.

On the other hand, it's an old Victorian/Edwardian mystery plot device to shove a murder victim UP the chimney from inside.

And maybe this is just sloppy writing, but how can the police consider an incident which resulted in a corpse suspicious, and still not be considering "foul play"?

Waiting to see how this one ends up.....

[N2NH]

Yes you did. You said there was one setting fire to the door while another was hiding out by the back stairs while another was waiting in a car across the street.

That has nothing to do with witchcraft. You are obviously confused.

You even said they bumped into each other.

I think before your next post, you should re-read mine again. You are definitely confused.

I assume this happened in NYC ? The FDNY sent out a dozen units instead of the normal required 2+2+1 response for the box ?

Yep. I was told they got a few calls on it. My neighbor across the hall moved within a week. She got spooked by the incident. I was trying to figure out how she knew at that time in the morning.

I can believe. Back in the 60's there was a TV show about a guy who was married to a witch. So I guess anythings possible.

I definitely hope NHE doesn't see this. When I mentioned it to her she was incensed. She still carries the papers she filed with the police about numerous incidents my ex pulled regarding her and us.

I'm not trying to say it didn't happen. All kinds of things are possible in this world. But it does sound strange to me. Then again, most of my relationships were extremely superficial.

There are times I wish more of mine were. Almost all my ex's would like me to go out with them again. I rarely like to make the same mistake twice. There's a reason they're my ex. My boss was always amazed at how women wouldn't let me go, even when it was their idea to split up. So were the fire investigators.

Please. I find the whole incident a case of Karma. Too many psycho b*tches, pulling too much sh*t, too often will do that to you. In fact it seems hilarious. If he stays, he gets the blame for making her do this. If he goes, he gets the blame because it was his fault she did it. Even if she gets blamed, the worst she'll get is a slap on the wrist. If I was him, I would've bailed out too. Discretion is the better part of valor they say, and what he did was the discretionary thing.

[kc7jty]

Sounds like the guy was wealthy. Some of those upper end custom designed houses have enormous fireplaces.

[n2ize]

That has nothing to do with witchcraft. You are obviously confused.

This is what you wrote

The night that my ex set fire to my door at 3:30AM, one of my other ex's was hiding in the back stairs to see if I was coming out, another was in a car across the street seeing if she could head me off if I went out. When ex #3 comes along and empties a can of lighter fluid on my door and sets it off (the grainy surveillance tape couldn't pick her out, but it did catch that).

I count three stalking your house simultaneously. While it's possible it sounds unlikely.

Yep. I was told they got a few calls on it. My neighbor across the hall moved within a week. She got spooked by the incident. I was trying to figure out how she knew at that time in the morning.

There are times I wish more of mine were. Almost all my ex's would like me to go out with them again. I rarely like to make the same mistake twice. There's a reason they're my ex. My boss was always amazed at how women wouldn't let me go, even when it was their idea to split up. So were the fire investigators.

I guess women find you irresistible. There is only one other guy I know who women of all ages find to be totally irresistible. That guy is me.. Women swoon over me. On the rare occasions I've gone to parties, which is never these days, they crowd around me. But I just brush them off. Only the most special and luckiest of women get to know me well. And even with those lucky enough to be accepted by me, the relationship is entirely platonic... no sex...no physical touching, no intimacy of any kind. Just the other day I was at a resturant picking up a pizza and a rather good looking businesswoman (looked in her 40's) came right up to me and asked me to join her at the bar and offered to buy me drinks and offered me a "night to remember". The offer was quite tempting but, much to her dismay, I had to decline. I told her, I gotta get this nice brick oven pizza home before it gets cold. I gave her my card and told her to call me next time she's in town. Of course, she'll never be worthy of me. She'll never get me.

Please. I find the whole incident a case of Karma. Too many psycho b*tches, pulling too much sh*t, too often will do that to you. In fact it seems hilarious. If he stays, he gets the blame for making her do this. If he goes, he gets the blame because it was his fault she did it. Even if she gets blamed, the worst she'll get is a slap on the wrist. If I was him, I would've bailed out too. Discretion is the better part of valor they say, and what he did was the discretionary thing.

But wouldn't you have called the cops to let them know there is an uninvited and unwelcomed guest entering your home in a very improper and unorthodox way ? I sure as heck would. I am not walking out of my home and letting some uninvited guest, (aka criminal intruder) have full run of my home.

In all these relationship conflicts there is almost always two sides to the story. Each party will tell you how horrifically bad the other is. And after a minute and a half its generally boring to listen to. LOL.

[n2ize]

Here is some actual surveillance video footage of one of my ex's stalking me and launching an attack on me.