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    Quote Originally Posted by N2RJ View Post
    I have been called racial slurs in New York too. I had a guy spit on my car and tell me that he doesn't like fucking rag heads. Racism is everywhere.

    What you are saying is that the South is bad because there are racist people who live there. You're saying that the GOP is bad because a few people said racist things. The NE doesn't seem all that better either, and I think that enduring a little racism isn't bad if it means I'll live a more comfortable life and not drain away my retirement funds down the tax hole.
    The problem is that you do find more blatant racism in certain parts of the south and yes the GOP is bad. The problem with the GOP is that it supports a repressive style of governance and economics that is injurious to the needs of the workers and the poor.The democrap party isn;t much better either. Another problem is the lack of intellectualism that is prevalent among the GOP and the various supportive factions such as the "tea party". If you look carefully you find most of the true intellectuals tend to be lefties. They tend to favor things like socialism, Marxism, pacifism and anarchy,. They understand how the unfettered corporatism/capitalism and the wars fought in the name of the rich man has led to the demise and exploitation of the poor, the needy, and the workers and how it has led them into a state of repression. It has created the state of economic inequality that we see all around us and the growing disparity that is so blatant.

    I remember reading about the case of Sacco and Vanzetti. 2 good men murdered by the state for a crime they didn't commit. Sacco and Vanzetti were European anarchists who were trying to organize and fight for the rights of repressed immigrant workers in the USA. One of the statements made by either Sacco or Vanzetti (I forget which one) was "I will not fight in the rich mans war". You tell me why they were railroaded through court and executed. Do you really think the capitalist aristocracy wanted them to stay alive ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by n2ize View Post
    The problem is that you do find more blatant racism in certain parts of the south
    You might should look in your own backyard before you cast such a broad net. Just sayin'
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    The whole mentality that is commonly associated with the South has spread. I have to hold Radical Republicans responsible for embracing such groups and giving them legitimacy by mainstreaming them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NA4BH View Post
    You might should look in your own backyard before you cast such a broad net. Just sayin'
    What you say is quite true. You will find elements of racism everywhere you go. America is a very divided country. We separate our selves economically, socially, racially, religiously, and now even politically. Segregation was for quite some time openly practiced in the south and, in my visits to the south I have seen elements of racism that are a throwback to that past. Note I didn't say everyone or everyplace in the south displays this. But I did see a "brand" of racism that I generally don't see here in the north. of course the north has it's own "brand" of racism, neither of which is any better or worst than the other.
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    That's the part I like. Those that don't live in the South are so quick to point out how "bad" it is down here and where they live nothing of the sort occurs. They seem to turn a blind eye to the fact that it occurs in all 50 states and in their own towns/neighborhoods. With equal impact. And they fail to see the reverse racism that occurs. But what the hey, believe what you must.
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    Quote Originally Posted by n2ize View Post
    What you say is quite true. You will find elements of racism everywhere you go. America is a very divided country. We separate our selves economically, socially, racially, religiously, and now even politically. Segregation was for quite some time openly practiced in the south and, in my visits to the south I have seen elements of racism that are a throwback to that past. Note I didn't say everyone or everyplace in the south displays this. But I did see a "brand" of racism that I generally don't see here in the north. of course the north has it's own "brand" of racism, neither of which is any better or worst than the other.
    No, you did single out the South. I'm glad you live in an area where nothing bad happens. What do they call the place? XANADU?
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    The South has no monopoly on racism. Even "liberal" California has it's own history of overt racism. For example there's a town here in San Diego County, Santee named (I believe) after a town in South Carolina. It was a "Sundowner" town for many years (that is, if you were a person of color, you better be out of town by sundown) and even today many locals still refer to it as "Klantee."

    It's not the only place I know of in this state with a similar history either.

    EDIT: Hell, I almost forgot:this very town, Lemon Grove, was the site of the first school desegregation court case in the country.
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    Racism is alive and well in PA as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wa6mhz View Post
    NO ONE can complain about the SoCal Weather, and that is what OLD FOLKS are most sensitive to. (I know I sure am!)
    us CODGERS can't even COMPREHEND having to SHOVEL SNOW day after day, October to May. SNOW SUCKS (unless U are a Skiier) NO SNOW HERE in San Diego, except up in the mountains on rare occasions. Us old foks like to be very comfortable, in our Rest Homes. Easy to walk with our Walkers here in San Diego. We have our Oxegyn bottles and DEPENDS. Our Hospital gowns and Blue Hair. Our Scooters and our GREAT GRANDCHILDREN. Nope, I just couldn't FATHOM living anywhere but San Diego. Hawaii might not be too bad, but they have big SPIDERS there.
    Much too mild for me. I HATE nice weather. Couldn't stand to live in a place that has no winter season. When I retire I'm going to Alaska or the Yukon. I don't ever plan to fully retire either. Gonna keep working as long as I can help it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NA4BH View Post
    No, you did single out the South. I'm glad you live in an area where nothing bad happens. What do they call the place? XANADU?
    And to an extent I am going to stick to my guns. The south carried a legacy for some of the worst and most blatant racism in America. It has toned down over the decades and is nothing like it was so, I will give credit where its due. But in my travels down there I heard some pretty nasty racist attitudes that reflect the legacy of the past. . And it was assumed that because I am white I would share those attitudes. Nothing like anything I have ever heard up this way, and we do have some pretty arrogant racists here too, I will definitly give you that. I will also say I was impressed with the south in the sense that they have done a lot to dispel that legacy. And no, things are not perfect here either. I too have been the victim of discrimination right near my own home town. There is one rather affluent community within short distance from my home in which I was discriminated against because I wasn't rich enough for them. I was not of their social-economic caliber. I was watched, tracked, and it was made clear that I am not welcome there, even to just pass through.I guess you can;t call that racism, its more like "classism" or "bank accountism" but it stings just as hard when you are treated as an inferior. Of course they never snub their nose at my money the few times I;ve done business there.

    Let me conclude with the words of Samuel Johnson, "The future is purchased by the present." but let me add the saying "time will heal all wounds". The south may still carrty some of its past legacy but they probable have done more to change it and move away from it than we have up here. So, what is our excuse ?
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