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    Re: Neat old 40 channel SSB CB i found

    Quote Originally Posted by N8YX
    I'll see your two meters and raise you:



    And one more:



    I have the entire Royce "3 meter" line in my collection, and a 1-641 (SSB/AM base) as well as a 1-639 (SSB/AM mobile). The -642 an -639 share a common main board...have PLL dividers that are internally ROM-programmed, and thus cannot be readily converted to other frequency ranges. Still, they're my "go to" CB rigs - the receivers are really well designed. Their lattice-style crystal filters can be replaced with a mechanical equivalent; after which, the adjacent-channel rejection becomes quite noteworthy.
    All very beautiful radios. I remember when radios had wood. An interesting concept. I always liked Royce also. A tube 40 channel radio, based on the old Lafayette Comstat 25A. Great idea, especially since it was bullet proof. Well, it would be if we were talking about anyone else but CB'ers. :)

    I always liked the Allied, Knight and Lafayette line of CB radios. I even still have a few around.
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    Re: Neat old 40 channel SSB CB i found

    Quote Originally Posted by N8YX
    I'll see your two meters and raise you:



    And one more:



    I have the entire Royce "3 meter" line in my collection, and a 1-641 (SSB/AM base) as well as a 1-639 (SSB/AM mobile). The -642 an -639 share a common main board...have PLL dividers that are internally ROM-programmed, and thus cannot be readily converted to other frequency ranges. Still, they're my "go to" CB rigs - the receivers are really well designed. Their lattice-style crystal filters can be replaced with a mechanical equivalent; after which, the adjacent-channel rejection becomes quite noteworthy.
    but it dont have them extree channels,freq counter,echo and roger beep.
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    Re: Neat old 40 channel SSB CB i found

    Quote Originally Posted by W2IBC
    but it dont have them extree channels,freq counter,echo and roger beep.
    And that's the beauty of it. ;)
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    Re: Neat old 40 channel SSB CB i found

    I still collect old radios of this era.
    The strangest one is the Dak 9 I own. It was hit by lightning and blown the main board by the original owner. I removed the guts and installed a cobra 148 gtl board in the rig along with an upgraded power supply.

    Other than my ham radio collection, here are some of my cb collection;
    Courier Gladiator moble (crystal control- huge radio)
    Midland 13-898b (had this since I was 14)
    Johnson Messenger two twenty three
    Johnson Messenger Two with tone alert (complete restore)
    Gloden Eagle Mk III SSB
    Tram D201
    Pearce Simpson "Guardian 23"
    Cobra Cam 89

    I have several others but are not in the collectors veiw or vintage.

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    Re: Neat old 40 channel SSB CB i found

    i have a few in need of resto if they still work.
    sbe console II, works.. have an sbe amplified desk mic i have to rewire for it.
    browning sabre 40 ch. worked when stored.
    lafayette LM-300 dual tuner 40 ch. worked when stored but badly beaten up since stored in 89. had the extree channels in it but am only. it was also capable of split band operation. lol.


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    Re: Neat old 40 channel SSB CB i found

    I'm looking around for a TRS Challenger 1400, CPI CP200B and accessory console, an un-butchered SBE LCBS-8 and maybe a D201a or D300. Motorola CB-555, Midland 78-999 and Craig L201 would be nice additions as well.
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    Re: Neat old 40 channel SSB CB i found

    but they say on the cb these days if your not running one of these



    your running junk

    :rofl:
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    Re: Neat old 40 channel SSB CB i found

    Remember the CB equipment reviews in Popular Electronics, S9 Magazine, Communications Quarterly and the like?

    I do.

    Measurements of sensitivity, adjacent channel rejection and 3rd-order IMD...ultimate rejection, receiver dynamic range - and in some cases, noise floor - were offered for all to see.

    Some of the more lavishly equipped offerings fell flat on their faces, while other bare-bones sets fared very well. This should come as no surprise, though: There were only a handful of companies building the chassis boards. AFAIK, Royce's parent company built their own. The Cybernet board was used in a shit-ton of radios (Hy-Gain, Nato, and so forth). Ditto the Uniden 142/148 (single-double-conversion board.) I'm pretty sure Radio Shack's stuff was OEMmed by GRE.

    That leaves CPI...Tram...Browning...and a few others who managed to price themselves right out of the market because their products weren't cost effective, although it can be said they were far better than their competition with regards to receiver performance.

    When it comes right down to it, 4w (or 12w PEP) is 4w, right? All sets had to meet max-power guidelines in order to be sold. I have a feeling that the lack of decent receivers in most of these sets is what drove a number of people to explore below channel 1 and above 40; the DX potential notwithstanding: They just wanted to get away from Ol' Blabbermouth who lived close enough to buckshot their receivers across the entire 40.

    Perhaps that mindset is what drove the creation of the so-called "export" radio. If the manufacturers of such would have dumped the same amount of money into the receiver (particularly, the IF strips) of these things as they did into the synthesizer section, co-channel interference would likely be a thing of the past. Alas, the receiver sections of most modern "export" sets are absolutely horrible.

    Another bit of trivia:

    Almost every one of the people I knew 'back in the day' who was running a ham rig on 11M did so not for the expanded coverage or higher output, but for the fact that most of the gear had far better receivers than anything else which was available at the time. The lion's share of these guys stayed within the Class D band and rarely (if ever) used what would be considered an excessive amount of power.

    An "IF shift", selectable filters or a "notch filter" on a CB set? IIRC, the Stoner Pro-40 (SSB only) was the sole production rig which incorporated a notch filter, and the Browning Mark III and IV had selectable crystal filters but nothing else. Listening to a crowded channel with a loaded R7 and playing with its various QRM/QRN-fighting features, one can only imagine the possibilities...
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    Re: Neat old 40 channel SSB CB i found

    Well I know I operated within the rules and never went freeband. Most of the people I know did too. Most of the freebanders I knew rarely went high or low, they stuck to the "A" channels and used mostly stock or modified stock Xcvrs. One was an ex-Ham and Army radio op too.

    I got a Johnson Messenger 125 awhile ago. Push button operation, slide controls, size of a small book and the Johnson/Viking name. State-of-the-art. For 1968. Oh and 5 channels.


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    Re: Neat old 40 channel SSB CB i found

    Quote Originally Posted by W2IBC
    but they say on the cb these days if your not running one of these



    your running junk

    :rofl:
    LOL!!!
    Yeah i remember one op on CB back in the day made fun of me because i was running a Cobra 2000 and he had a Galaxy saturn. "Oh dude! You need to get one of these radios. Then you can run echo!" Ummm yeah, i will keep my 2000 thanks very much.

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