Fedora + KDE + Sound Apps

[n2ize]

For regular desktop users I would recommend downgrading to KDE 3 until KDE 4 is ready for the desktop. It is not ready for prime time yet.

Or just use Gnome. ;)

True, but I'm speaking mainly of die hard KDE'ers like myself.

[n2ize]

Well, they seemed to fix a few things. For one my weather applet keeps it's configuration now... before the upgrade it lost the config everytime you logged out and logged back in. Some of the desktop widgets seem to be working and some of the config tools and interfaces seem a bit tighter. Unfortunately the screen savers still don't work... yes they are there and they have some really awesome screen savers but unfortunately they never come on automatically, even when configured to do so.

[N2CHX]

Well, they seemed to fix a few things. For one my weather applet keeps it's configuration now... before the upgrade it lost the config everytime you logged out and logged back in. Some of the desktop widgets seem to be working and some of the config tools and interfaces seem a bit tighter. Unfortunately the screen savers still don't work... yes they are there and they have some really awesome screen savers but unfortunately they never come on automatically, even when configured to do so.

Wow. I appreciate your dedication but with that much dysfunction why stick with it? Even my kids can use Gnome. I'd hate to hear how much they'd groan at me if they had all the problems with their computers that it seems KDE still has.

[n2ize]

Well, they seemed to fix a few things. For one my weather applet keeps it's configuration now... before the upgrade it lost the config everytime you logged out and logged back in. Some of the desktop widgets seem to be working and some of the config tools and interfaces seem a bit tighter. Unfortunately the screen savers still don't work... yes they are there and they have some really awesome screen savers but unfortunately they never come on automatically, even when configured to do so.

Wow. I appreciate your dedication but with that much dysfunction why stick with it? Even my kids can use Gnome. I'd hate to hear how much they'd groan at me if they had all the problems with their computers that it seems KDE still has.

I prefer the look and feel and flexibility of KDE. Plus, despite it's growing pains, there are just some things it does better. Plus I am also quite familiar with Qt which is essentially the SDK that KDE is built on. Thus I can decipher error messages in KDE better than other systems.

Besides, despite the current issues with KDE it is still light years ahead of the GUI interfaces that I had to deal with when I started with Linux way back in the early 90's.

[W2NAP]

i prefeer KDE over gnome

if i had a dvd drive on the tower id put debian on the tower.. but just cd drive and since i have to use ndiswrapper to get the wifi to work (which is my only way to connect to the net) and its a bitch going thu finding all the dependancys for ndiswrapper in debian with no net connection (and not haveing a shit ton of cd's )

[N2CHX]

Wow. I write code, as in I have a lot of software I have written and even sold -- and some of you are WAY beyond my level of geek. For Christ's sake I even have a hardware/software system that won an industry award and you're STILL more geeky than me.

[n2ize]

Wow. I write code, as in I have a lot of software I have written and even sold -- and some of you are WAY beyond my level of geek. For Christ's sake I even have a hardware/software system that won an industry award and you're STILL more geeky than me.

I don't do much programming these days. When I do write code I mostly write in Lisp or Perl. Once in while I might write in C or a little bit in Assembly. For GUI programming I mainly use Qt/C++.

[W2NAP]

i try not to write code it gives me a headache.. i have been known to send code once and awhile :P

[n2ize]

Okay, getting back to the subject at hand. I flushed the contents of my old .qt and .kde config directories. Then I restarted KDE to let the rebuild from scratch. So far KDE seems to be behaving. Perhaps it was balking at some of my old configuration directives. We'll see how things go, So far even my screensavers are working properly now.

Pulseaudio is awesome. I can open any audio app and it will play... simulataneously with other apps if need be. No fighting for a sound card. I think Pulseaudio has great promise and may be the answer to Linux's sound woes. Now I just gotta familiarize myself with Qt 4.0 and phoneon.

One additional note... Although it is running much better since I did the upgrades and cleaned out the old kde configs it still crashed hard on me while I was playing a flash video in Firefox. But it was a random crash, it's been fine since. If might even be related to a bug in Adobe's flash plugin.

[n2ize]

i prefeer KDE over gnome

if i had a dvd drive on the tower id put debian on the tower.. but just cd drive and since i have to use ndiswrapper to get the wifi to work (which is my only way to connect to the net) and its a bitch going thu finding all the dependancys for ndiswrapper in debian with no net connection (and not haveing a shit ton of cd's )

I know whaere your coming from. I was lucky. When I had to set up ndiswrapper on a laptop I was fortunate to be able to plug into my wired ethernet. As it turns out the upper floor of the house is on hard wired ethernet. The lower floor is on wifi.