Page 2 of 2 FirstFirst 12
Results 11 to 20 of 20

Thread: Solarcon A-99

  1. #11
    "Island Bartender" KG4CGC's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    EM84ru, Easley SC
    Posts
    51,294
    Quote Originally Posted by N8YX View Post
    On which frequency or frequencies does your group hang out, Charles?
    28.372 and sometimes 28.402. Really though, 28.402 is if a couple of us want to pop up there to get away from the drone of certain politics.

    What I'm trying to do though is overcome some geographical issues. Directly south of me the terrain increases in altitude 100' over a distance of 3/4th of a mile. This is also true SSW and SW. The feedpoint of the inverted-V sit up at close to 70' but it's not a true V. It's closer to being a horizontal dipole than it is a true inverted-V in all its glory. I'm good with that one and I'm going to leave it be since it hits the DX good from the West coast when starts rolling, a lot of the time. I still have issues overcoming some stations unless I'm the first one in there before everyone else discovers that the band is open.

    I do switch back and forth between the two antennas to pull in stations better and use the one getting a louder signal. All was well and good but now I have something else to experiment with and before I go hoisting sails, that what I call pulling an antenna up into a tree, I'm wondering if this is worth the effort or if the A-99 is a garbage project. I will be adding a heavy gauge wire attached to the base of the antenna where the mounting hardware would usually go and include the dimensions of the base in the length of the wire. Like the dipole it will replace, there will be a rope attached to that wire just as a type of anchor.

    So yeah, on local talk, there are some guys to the south that I struggle to hear but guys further away to the east I hear fine. All that being said, not all stations are equal BUT, stations to the south and to the east lose 100' to 200' in altitude because of geography etc, although their decline in altitude is not as dramatic as the hill that is very close to me.

    Also this has also made me want to do a mobile set up and go hit a mountain top.

  2. #12
    Whacker Knot WØTKX's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    Lakewood, CO
    Posts
    26,758
    The drone of dystopian ammosexual fantasies.
    "Where would we be without the agitators of the world to attach the electrodes
    of knowledge to the nipples of ignorance?" ~ Professor "Dick" Soloman



  3. #13
    'Grumpy old bastid' kb2vxa's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    Lakewood, NJ
    Posts
    13,081
    Hi Charles,

    I'll answer your original questions in order to avoid confusion. I hope you haven't mounted it yet, you'll see why soon.

    1) My question(s) is, should I expect a better gain figure with the a-99 over my dipole?
    Most certainly, a dipole has unity gain and is the de facto standard reference (dBd) for gain measurement. An end fed half wave, 5/8 wave and .64 wave in order of increasing gain flatten the dipole's V pattern extending it outward toward the radio horizon thus increasing "gain" actually a wider coverage area. It's also much better for DX hitting the ionosphere at a shallower angle increasing distance where it's refracted back down.

    2) Should I attach a wire, cut to resonant (about 100.75") to the base of the a-99 and let it hang straight down? The a-99 will be hung from a tree in the spot that the vertical dipole occupies.
    Keep it away from trees that absorb signal, and mount it on a mast away from obstructions, earth counterpoise coming soon.

    3) How is the manufacturer of the a-99 able to claim it is a half wave over a quarter wave radiator with a gain figure of 9.9 dbi while the dipole MIGHT be as high as 2.4 dbi?
    Advertising puffery just short of lies that are illegal. You're comparing apples to oranges here, refer to my first answer. Manufacturers puff up gain figures by using dBi which is only a mathematical construct, theoretical radiation spherically from a point radiator. As you learned in school before the No Child Left Behind policy went into effect, a point is another theoretical construct, an infinitely small "dot". If you want to know true gain, Gain in dBd = gain in dBi - 2.15 dB and I still don't trust advertizers, especially when the reverse is true, Gain in dBi = gain in dBd + 2.15 dB.

    Last but not least, if you want that antenna to be at its peak of performance add the radial kit that SHOULD be sold with it so it operates properly with earth counterpoise and you won't be disappointed. Here is the TI2MAS installation with radials, Antron is a brand of Solarcon sold as a CB antenna easily re-tuned below and above 11M. That sucker's expensive at a hunned anna qarters to a hunnerdfify buckaroos so don't expect the radial kit to be cheap, I got a $70 price on it... OUCH! Oh BTW it's rated at 2KW to handle today's CB leenyars. (;->)

    Every ham worth his salt knows that all verticals are ground plane types that if mounted on the ground use true Earth counterpoise with radials on the surface (best) and AM broadcast standard practice, or buried shallow (second best) Amateur standard practice, which is the other half of the antenna. Smaller verticals mounted above the ground have radials too at the base, again the other half of the antenna that raise Earth up to it electrically. You won't be as happy with the antenna as you can be with the radials and mounted in the best location away from obstructions that absorb signal.

    "I do switch back and forth between the two antennas to pull in stations better and use the one getting a louder signal."
    That's exactly what we did on Field Day with a 1/2 wave vertical and a dipole as the changing ionosphere causes polarization shifts. It was a 2 man operation as FD is, the operator had one hand on the PTT bar and the other on the coaxial switch, the other person logging.

    Good luck Charles, I wish you the best!

    A-99.jpg
    Last edited by kb2vxa; 03-28-2021 at 08:45 AM.
    "The universe is under no obligation to make sense to you."
    Neil deGrasse Tyson

    73 de Warren KB2VXA
    Station powered by atomic energy, operator powered by natural gas.

  4. #14
    "Island Bartender" KG4CGC's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    EM84ru, Easley SC
    Posts
    51,294
    Thank you for the constructive input, Warren. I appreciate it.

    With regard to mast mounting it, that's not an option unless I go with a tower and that's not happening either. Mast material these day is too thin walled compared to the stuff I used in the 90's and more so compared to the stuff I salvaged from the 70's. The old 70's metal tubes finally succumbed to the weather about 10 years ago. If I try a mast mount today the best I can do is 20 feet max before everything folds over on itself.

  5. #15
    'Grumpy old bastid' kb2vxa's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    Lakewood, NJ
    Posts
    13,081
    The brackets look like they'll handle a 10ft section of heavy wall aluminium EMT available at your local electrical supply house. Jack WA2V (SK) and I used it for mast, IIRC the next smaller size slips into the next larger to make a longer mast if necessary, drill holes and pin it. You can test what you need if they allow you near the rack. I also used Rat Shack steel TV mast that just slips together. Alas poor Rat Shack, I knew it well, but Tandy succumbed to something rotten... mismanagement.
    "The universe is under no obligation to make sense to you."
    Neil deGrasse Tyson

    73 de Warren KB2VXA
    Station powered by atomic energy, operator powered by natural gas.

  6. #16
    Administrator N8YX's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    Out in the sticks
    Posts
    26,083
    Quote Originally Posted by kb2vxa View Post
    I also used Rat Shack steel TV mast that just slips together. Alas poor Rat Shack, I knew it well, but Tandy succumbed to something rotten... mismanagement.
    They offered telescoping TV mast as well, and Rohn still does. Any higher than 15ft extended definitely requires guying, though.
    "Everyone wants to be an AM Gangsta until it's time to start doing AM Gangsta shit."

  7. #17
    "Island Bartender" KG4CGC's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    EM84ru, Easley SC
    Posts
    51,294
    All wonderful suggestions. Thank you.
    It's going in the tree. I can get the feed point close to 60' up.
    The top half will be poking out in the clear.
    The rest will be 12 feet out from the major parts towards the center.

  8. #18
    'Grumpy old bastid' kb2vxa's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    Lakewood, NJ
    Posts
    13,081
    Well, the tree isn't ideal, but a natural tower isn't too bad. Before Jack and I were hams we were CBers and it was a good place for cutting radio teeth if you do more than talk. We did a lot of experimenting, mostly with antennas, building a few too, and modifying ham transmitters made before 1960 with 11M. My last station was Heathkit twins, an Apache transmitter tweaked for 11M and a Mohawk receiver. There's nothing like an M derived pi section filter following a clipper for punch without audible distortion and splatter. To the point, we had an antenna in the tree behind his house at the shore, we had a lot of fun there and the signal covered Atlantic City to New York, we didn't "shoot skip" because there wasn't any propagation.

    Telescoping mast, my base station house had only a 16ft roof peak so I had to go up, compounding the problem was only the legal 2Ft setback from the property line. We put 3 heavy wall brackets on the side holding a 50ft mast telescoped down to 40ft to give several walls thickness at the top bracket. The mast sat on a concrete block and the earthing stake 10ft into the ground connected to the mast with a conductor thick as your thumb scrounged from a transformer installation saved my life one night when the antenna got smacked. It stood up to a hurricane so I can say it was good material and installed well even though unguyed.

    Going mobile Charles isn't a bad idea either, I knew two 10M Mobileers, one the owner of a 10M repeater and the other one of the 10M CBers who parked at the Point Pleasant Beach Inlet watching the boats go by. When I was still active I QSOed with a guy on 6 USB parked on a mountain in Pennsylvania 120 miles North By Northwest of me. Yeah, it's also the name of a Hitchcock thriller. He lived in a valley so VHF from home was impossible. I used to go hilltopping in the VXAmobile, one time I called on 145.250 and kept hearing a tiny signal answering, barely audible. I thought it strange, so I ran a test of a sequence of long and short transmissions, they came back as sent. AHAAA! One of those silly simplex repeaters only this LID put it on the calling frequency! GGGRRR!!!
    "The universe is under no obligation to make sense to you."
    Neil deGrasse Tyson

    73 de Warren KB2VXA
    Station powered by atomic energy, operator powered by natural gas.

  9. #19
    "Island Bartender" KG4CGC's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    EM84ru, Easley SC
    Posts
    51,294
    I don't remember all the reasons behind it but 145.250 was a point of contention in our area as the old analog cable system of the 90's and 00's used that frequency in their lines ... that leaked!

  10. #20
    Orca Whisperer W3WN's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Location
    Castle Shannon, PA
    Posts
    19,342
    Quote Originally Posted by KG4CGC View Post
    I don't remember all the reasons behind it but 145.250 was a point of contention in our area as the old analog cable system of the 90's and 00's used that frequency in their lines ... that leaked!
    Back before they were absorbed by a predecessor of what's now Comca$t, local cable company had an issue on their (analog system) Channel 19, which included 2 meters. Definitely picking all sorts of Land Mobile communications; cabs, power company vans, and so forth.

    I once called in the issue. 1st Tier Support asked what community I lived in. Told her. Was then informed that it HAD to be caused by that "damn ham" who lived on my street who was running "too much power." I asked to speak to her Supervisor; she asked why, and I then told her that I was that "damn ham", I didn't operate when watching TV, and that she had just violated several FCC rules and regulations by accusing me of interference without proof... and without knowing what power levels I was legally allowed to use... so either put me through to her Supervisor, or I'd file a complaint with the FCC.

    She put me through without another word.

    I did get an apology from the Supervisor, but they never did fix the problem. At least, not before I switched to DirecTV (back when they were still part of Hughes and a decent company)
    “Nobody is going to feel sorry for us. 90% of the people don’t care, the other 10% are glad it happened.” — Clint Hurdle, 2019

    BAN THE DH!

    Fudd's First Law of Opposition: If you push something hard enough, it WILL fall down.
    Teslacle's Deviant to Fudd's Law: It goes in, it must go out.

    Just remember: Abraham Lincoln didn't die in vain. He died in Washington, DC

    Cutch 300!!!!!

    “Nero fiddled while Rome burned. Trump golfed.” — Bernie Sanders

    Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati


Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •