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    One of the reasons the counter tariffs of the EU will hit the rust belt and Trump "belt" the hardest.
    The car tariffs will hit the USA just as hard, if not harder as the EU.
    According to Bloomberg, the proposed trade barrier would also hit the US economy and could eventually result in "upwards of 180,000 jobs lost." Moreover, the total impact could reportedly be doubled by EU's countermeasures.
    Most if these USA job losses will happen in Trump territory the "rust belt" making voters on him less happy.

    Why it won't work:
    "There is no legal justification," said Sherman Robinson of the Peterson Institute for International Economics, who added that new tariffs would be immediately challenged at the World Trade Organization (WTO).

    The move would threaten to wreak havoc on the global auto industry, which has built supply chains that crisscross national borders and limit the effectiveness of blunt instruments such as tariffs.

    BMW (BMWYY), for example, builds hundreds of thousands of cars each year at its massive factory in South Carolina, the company's biggest in the world. The German automaker produced 371,000 vehicles last year in the US, 16,000 more than it sold there, according to Germany's Center for Automotive Research.

    Mercedes-Benz, which is owned by Daimler (DMLRY), built nearly as many cars in the US as it sold in the country. Both automakers, which have invested billions in the US, export cars made there to other markets -- and they could be hurt by any retaliation from America's trade partners.

    Meanwhile, American automakers could be hurt by tariffs on cars made abroad. GM (GM) sold 3 million cars in the US last year, but it made just 2.2 million vehicles in the country. That means it imports thousands of models each year.

    "It would be extremely difficult to decide what is in fact a European car," said Robinson. "It will mess up the industry globally."

    Analysts said that trade measures targeting auto parts would be even more disruptive than tariffs on completed cars. It is common for auto parts to cross several national borders before reaching the final assembly line.

    "Anything that disrupts those supply chains is very damaging," said Robinson. "It cannot be in US interests to touch any of those value chains."

    The fallout from new tariffs would be difficult to contain. The US has become an attractive destination for investment, with companies such as Toyota (TM) choosing it as a place to build cars and export them to other markets.

    "Once you start going down this path ... you damage the whole investment environment," said Meltzer. "There are losers on all sides."

    Experts said negotiations with the EU could yield better results. Cars built in America currently face a 10% tariff when they enter the EU, while vehicles shipped from Europe to the US are charged 2.5%, except trucks and heavy goods vehicles that are taxed at 25% already.

    Tariffs would do nothing to make US cars more competitive in European markets. But getting the EU to drop its tariffs below 10% would help American models appear more competitive.

    "That is exactly the kind of thing you would discuss with the EU," said Robinson.
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    EMBARGO is O GRAB ME backwards.

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    "There are no differences but differences of degree between different degrees of difference and no difference."--William James
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    cul de n8tb
    "Sadly, it always takes a few martyrs to get the ball rolling." Colonel Tim Boldman 2001
    "There are no differences but differences of degree between different degrees of difference and no difference."--William James
    "Science flies you to the moon. Religion flies you into buildings." Victor J. Stenger

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    Today's phrase: "God is a white supremacist and Jews are from Satan."
    The fuck country do we live in?

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    I watched the hearing today. The GOP makes me want to vomit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KG4CGC View Post
    I watched the hearing today. The GOP makes me want to vomit.
    https://twitter.com/DevinNunesMom/st...56911879680000

    Peter Strzok just did a better job of making Trey Gowdy look like a dick than Trey Gowdys barber.

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    https://twitter.com/funder/status/1017446592977219585



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    Mr. Strzok couldn't have put it more eloquently. On the other hand, Gowdy, the committee chair, and Mr. Gohmert demonstrated that the GOP has absolutely no shred of decency.

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    "In America, politicians shouldnt pick their voters; voters are supposed to pick their politicians. - Barack Obama



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    Just some opinion shit. Couldn't possibly be accurate.

    http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer...collusion.html

    Who cares if Russia severely interfered in our elections in order to put an incompetent candidate into office which they could use to help solidify their power in the world while America faltered? As long as Trump did not collude with them why does it matter?
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    These are interesting times, eh?


    ...the particular passage which is being referred to happens on the the end of 'stinkfoot', and takes place in the context of a man having a conversation with his dog.
    the dog asks the man, what is his conceptual continuity. (Frank Zappa's poetry slammin' it here)


    so the dog is posing a philosophical question to the man about what the man thinks the nature of reality is, or at least his understanding of it.
    the dog is basically asking, what is reality?


    well, what is an apostrophe?


    an apostrophe is a symbol. its an idea. and what is anything else for that matter? what am i to you, but an idea within your mind.
    and so, the apostrophe, being a symbol of defined purpose but undefined potential, becomes a more accurate symbol to represent whatever we currently call 'reality'.

    basically saying that the crux of the 'biscuit', i.e. reality itself, is more accurately represented by a symbol such as an 'apostrophe'.

    meaning... words are limited, language is limited...


    ideas and concepts are limitless...
    the apostrophe is a symbol that represents something that is not clearly defined.


    i mean, if you find an apostrophe inside of a word, you know that it means 'symbol for conjoining two words together' or 'symbol to represent plurality, or ownership'... and that makes well enough sense.


    but say you have an apostrophe out on the page by itself... what does it mean then?
    it is a vague symbol that can mean anything...and it does.


    being able to move beyond that and see, that what binds reality together is something that goes beyond conventional comprehension.
    just try to imagine what an apostrophe means by itself. ----> ' <---- (an apostrophe, out of context)


    basically, the apostrophe by itself goes beyond logic. it still means SOMETHING, but without context, it is impossible to define.
    it is only within the CONTEXT of language can the purpose of the apostrophe be understood and decoded.


    the way we observe things and learn about reality is by looking at context. our understanding of everything is based on the context in which it is being observed.
    basically, an apostrophe is dependent upon context to be understood... but an apostrophe is not dependent upon context to EXIST.


    and reality is the same way... reality is dependant upon context in order to be understood, but it is not dependent upon context in order to EXIST.
    and so, in this way, the apostrophe is an accurate symbol for whatever we might call this existence...

    ...and so, the crux of the biscuit is the apostrophe.
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