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    All Dutch trains run on green energy now.

    All Dutch trains have become 100% powered by electricity generated by wind energy, the national railway company NS has said .
    “Since 1 January, 100% of our trains are running on wind energy,” said NS spokesman, Ton Boon.


    Dutch electricity company Eneco won a tender offered by NS two years ago and the two companies signed a 10-year deal setting January 2018 as the date by which all NS trains should run on wind energy.
    “So we in fact reached our goal a year earlier than planned,” said Boon, adding that an increase in the number of wind farms across the country and off the coast of the Netherlands had helped NS achieve its aim.
    Eneco and NS said on a joint website that around 600,000 passengers daily are “the first in the world” to travel thanks to wind energy. NS operates about 5,500 train trips a day.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ind-powered-ns
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    This is awesome. Where are we, here stateside, on train technology?

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    I think we're having another look at coal fired locomotives...:roll:

    Quote Originally Posted by KG4CGC View Post
    This is awesome. Where are we, here stateside, on train technology?
    QAnon / GOP Republicans mentally lack the necessary intelligence to even tell a decent lie (Ex: A cabal of Satanic, cannibalistic pedophiles run a global child sex trafficking ring and conspired against former President Dotard dRUMPf during his term in office... Jewish space lasers, etc.). What in the hell makes anyone believe these melon heads can actually govern?

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    It is a good step in the right direction.
    More important is the development of the European super grid, connecting all countries together.
    https://www.theguardian.com/environm...-cable-britned

    It stretches 260km under the North Sea, contains 23,000 tonnes of copper and lead, and may represent the first step towards a renewable energy revolution based on a European electricity "supergrid". The £500m BritNed cable, which has just entered operation, is the first direct current electricity link from the UK to another country in 25 years.
    Operational since 2011.

    The high voltage cable, a joint venture between the UK National Grid and the Dutch grid operator TenneT, has a capacity of 1,000MW, the equivalent of a nuclear power station. It runs from the Isle of Grain in Kent to Maasvlakte, near Rotterdam, in the Netherlands.
    High voltage DC (HVDC) cables allow electricity to be transmitted over much greater distances than existing alternating current lines, which start losing power after 80km. A network of HVDC cables across Europe is seen as the key to "weather-proofing" the large scale use of renewable energy, some forms of which are intermittent and have to be balanced in real time with generation elsewhere.
    The longest existing subsea HVDC cable is 580km, linking Norway and the Netherlands.

    See article for already existing infrastructure and planned infrastructure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ad4mg View Post
    I think we're having another look at coal fired locomotives...:roll:
    What He said. First we need to get trains. At least We are creating the wind farms around here. A second one is going up this year in our county.
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    Looking at all the new solar panels going up the houses roofing here it is clear that solar panels now are cheap, and deliver profit in relative short time for pay back the system.

    Our city installed large solar panels in new build area's supplying street lighting with energy running electricity battery's for night power. ( recycled old EV car battery's)
    Most now LED lights, bright and low energy use.
    Even the alley's get public LED lighting that way.

    Central heating on natural gas are replaced by heatpump systems at the end of life of the gas fed central heating system.
    New build houses don't get connected to the gas lines, completely running on heat pump systems and own generated electricity power and warm water solar panels.

    Having thee EU super grid is the backbone for sharing surplus energy around in the Eu countries that need the extra energy or visa versa.
    The sun aleays shines somewhere in the EU and the wind blows always somewhere in the EU.
    Ground/air heat systems came a long way as well.
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    I'm happy for y'all over there, Cor. I suspect the only new train we'll make over here will be nuclear powered and built by the Navy.

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    Railroads are not as popular here in the USA as they are in Europe which has high speed passenger service. Rail service here is primarily for freight. Passenger service here primarily centers around commuter rail traffic and local urban rapid transit. So,for example in my area we see a lot of commuter rail service used mainly by people who live outside of NYC to get to work and of course the NYCTA (subway system). Both the commuter rail service (Metro-North) and the NYC Subway system have seen a large increase in ridership over the past couple of decades and now with the opening of the new 2nd Avenue subway ridership will likely increase even more. Unfortunately we don't have much in the way of modern long range high speed transit. Once you get outside of the NYC metro area and the surrounding suburbs rail service plays less and less of a role in peoples lives. It would be great if we would implement a modern efficient reliable high speed interstate rail system like you have over there. Unfortunately I doubt it's going to come to fruition anytime soon.:(
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