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    Bumblebees are missing.

    Bumblebees can't move north to cope with warmer temperatures, and climate change is wiping them out in many areas where they lived several decades ago, a Canadian-led study suggests.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WØTKX View Post
    Bumblebees are missing.

    Bumblebees can't move north to cope with warmer temperatures, and climate change is wiping them out in many areas where they lived several decades ago, a Canadian-led study suggests.
    The Canadian study is full of beeswax. It's no warmer or colder here that it has been since I've been living. The other bugs seem unaffected and I frankly don't think that bees are so dainty that a tenth of a degree is going to affect them, they have survived for millions of years through some major climate changes like full on ice ages.
    We never had weather like this before they started messing around with that internet stuff.

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    In that time there weren't 7+ billion people around polluting th environment with poisons and air pollution.
    Changes then happened over several 1000's of years giving time to adapt now changes happen overnight, not much chance to adapt is there...


    Quote Originally Posted by ka4dpo View Post
    The Canadian study is full of beeswax. It's no warmer or colder here that it has been since I've been living. The other bugs seem unaffected and I frankly don't think that bees are so dainty that a tenth of a degree is going to affect them, they have survived for millions of years through some major climate changes like full on ice ages.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PA5COR View Post
    In that time there weren't 7+ billion people around polluting th environment with poisons and air pollution.
    Changes then happened over several 1000's of years giving time to adapt now changes happen overnight, not much chance to adapt is there...
    So it's 86 degrees here today. It's been in the 70's and 80's for the last two months just like every other summer. In August it will be in the 90's and possibly even a few days at 100 degrees just like the last 100 years or so. Some summers are hotter and some are cooler but the bees were always here even when it was much hotter.

    I don't buy into the human aspect because there are not 7 billion people here in this area, we have hundreds of square miles of federal reserve that is untouched and always will be. Farmers around here no longer use Diazanon and DDT and haven't for a very long time. With all of that beautiful untouched land that they used to live on I just want to know why they don't live there anymore. Where did they go, and why hasn't anyone come up with an answer. I read a lot of theories where the authors state that data suggests or "might contribute" but never a smoking gun. This is a very serious issue that needs a serious effort.
    We never had weather like this before they started messing around with that internet stuff.

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    Oooo, struck a nerve.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WØTKX View Post
    Oooo, struck a nerve.
    A nerve? Perhaps, although we know it wasn't a neuron.
    All the world’s a stage, but obviously the play is unrehearsed and everybody is ad-libbing his lines. Maybe that’s why it’s hard to tell if we’re living in a tragedy or a farce.

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    Maybe stung a nerve? Don't worry, BEE happy. FYI honey bees are the ones affected, I still see many bumble bees and their look alike cousins, carpenter bees. Then as they adapt to the climate (change, ha ha) they're moving northward, Africanized or KILLER BEES. Never mind the flu shots ladies, you have a much bigger problem on your hands.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kb2vxa View Post
    Maybe stung a nerve? Don't worry, BEE happy. FYI honey bees are the ones affected, I still see many bumble bees and their look alike cousins, carpenter bees. Then as they adapt to the climate (change, ha ha) they're moving northward, Africanized or KILLER BEES. Never mind the flu shots ladies, you have a much bigger problem on your hands.
    I remember that a couple of those guys got caught buzzing off.
    We never had weather like this before they started messing around with that internet stuff.

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    Just had an European heat wave breaking all records set over 150 + years soaring up to 104.5 F ( which we normally even in hot summers never see.
    A number of tornado's hit as well, something we get more and more, yes climate here IS changing.
    Air pollution doesn't stop at borders or at town borders too you know :)
    Colony collapse disorders happen all over the globe, not just the USA or Europe alone.
    Pesticides and air pollution doesn't kill bees directly but might weaken their resistance enough to fall prey to parasites and fungicides.
    http://qz.com/107970/scientists-disc...n-you-thought/

    Bees prefer to forage plants containing neonicotinoids, or insecticides chemically related to nicotine, which is leading to their declining numbers, a new study out of the United Kingdom recently published in the journal Nature says.
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    I linked above to a very good paper that carefully examines CCD and neoniconoids , Bt toxin and bee reproduction. It's worth the fee for the paper. BTW there is a very weak correlation between neo toxins and CCD. Overall the honeybee population is increasing. CCD is a localized disorder. Many locales where neo toxins are used in abundance have not seen significant CCD while other locales where little or no neo-toxin is used have seen significant CCD/
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