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    Quote Originally Posted by KJ6BSO View Post
    Shockingly conventional thinking. If everyone thought like that, humankind would be even worse off than we are right now.
    Defending one's self (or one's country) is "conventional thinking"? Go back and read what I wrote again.

    My main gripe with the way our country handles foreign affairs is that we tend to get embroiled in too many localized conflicts - which leads to destabilization down the road. And further involves us.

    My other point is: Damn the politicians before the soldiers. Leadership makes the current model attractive and continues its propagation.

    The phrase "Lions led by jackasses" seems appropriate here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by N8YX View Post
    Defending one's self (or one's country) is "conventional thinking"? Go back and read what I wrote again.
    Actually, I could say the same to you. You‘ve still not grasped the point of my original comment, which was not calling for a one-sided disarmament but one that was worldwide because warfare does not benefit the common man in any country.

    My main gripe with the way our country handles foreign affairs is that we tend to get embroiled in too many localized conflicts - which leads to destabilization down the road. And further involves us.
    And provides a convenient recruiting for a bunch of cynical people seeking worldly power: “jihad against the infidel”.

    My other point is: Damn the politicians before the soldiers. Leadership makes the current model attractive and continues its propagation.
    Ah, and this was exactly my point—next time the politicians tell us to go to war for them, we should just tell them to go fuck themselves while we go back to earning a living and taking care of our families.
    All the world’s a stage, but obviously the play is unrehearsed and everybody is ad-libbing his lines. Maybe that’s why it’s hard to tell if we’re living in a tragedy or a farce.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KJ6BSO View Post
    Ah, and this was exactly my point—next time the politicians tell us to go to war for them, we should just tell them to go fuck themselves while we go back to earning a living and taking care of our families.
    Better still:

    Send them to fight wars of aggression or expansionism.

    Defense of one's domicile/homeland is always going to get a pass; rightly so. "We" (the western world) can adopt a different paradigm when it comes to conflict...but how does one get the rest of the world to play along?
    "Everyone wants to be an AM Gangsta until it's time to start doing AM Gangsta shit."

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    One mans freedom fighter is another mans terrorist.

    The rest of the world is already playing along...just not by the rules arrogantly set by western democracy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AF5TY View Post
    One mans freedom fighter is another mans terrorist.

    The rest of the world is already playing along...just not by the rules arrogantly set by western PLUTOCRACIES/OLIGARCHIES.
    fixed that for you...
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