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    that's not phunny
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    I will perch in my chair, scratch my cods, and roe over this.


    I think it has to do something with live births.
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    It's like asking what the last 3 words in the Doors song Touch Me, or the first 4 words of Carly Simon's song Your So Vain.
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    Other things live in the Ocean that are not fish. Which reminds of this reasoning:

    How many animals are in a pair of panty hose:

    14 is the correct answer

    One Ass
    Two Calves
    Ten little piggies
    And a fish no one can find

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    From a purely logical stance, given the two premises, the conclusion is sound. This would, of course, only be accurate in the bounded set provided.
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    What? :shock: :chin:
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    Quote Originally Posted by WØTKX View Post
    What? :shock: :chin:
    I think what he said is, he has no fucking idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WØTKX View Post
    What? :shock: :chin:
    Quote Originally Posted by K7SGJ View Post
    I think what he said is, he has no fucking idea.
    In a bounded sense. You are only given 2 premises, so imagine for a moment that's all the information you have. In this case, it would be true. You know that all fish live in the sea. You know sharks live in the sea. That's it, you know of only one species of fish: Sharks. So, given the bounded set you're working with, it's a logically valid conclusion.

    Now, open the bounded set to all marine life, and the logical conclusion drawn the the new set of premises ie, crabs live in the sea. Crabs are not fish. Dolphins live in the sea. Dolphins are not fish. Sharks live in the sea. You cannot conclude in that set of premises that sharks are fish, unless you are given another premise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KC2UGV View Post
    In a bounded sense. You are only given 2 premises, so imagine for a moment that's all the information you have. In this case, it would be true. You know that all fish live in the sea. You know sharks live in the sea. That's it, you know of only one species of fish: Sharks. So, given the bounded set you're working with, it's a logically valid conclusion.

    Now, open the bounded set to all marine life, and the logical conclusion drawn the the new set of premises ie, crabs live in the sea. Crabs are not fish. Dolphins live in the sea. Dolphins are not fish. Sharks live in the sea. You cannot conclude in that set of premises that sharks are fish, unless you are given another premise.
    WTF? Uhhhh no. Just no. You're contradicting yourself by adding additional information to your "bounded set", i.e. that sharks are a species of fish. You have to break it down further than that: You don't know WTF a fish or a shark is. All you know is that they both live in the sea. Therefore, you cannot conclude that sharks are fish. They are both simply things that live in the sea and that's all you know. Sorry, but you're wrong here.

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    Hint: replace "fish" with jazigimos and "sharks" with blazingilas. No one has any clue what a jazigimo or a blazingila is, outside of the fact (according to the information given) that they both live in the sea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KC2UGV View Post
    In a bounded sense. You are only given 2 premises, so imagine for a moment that's all the information you have. In this case, it would be true. You know that all fish live in the sea. You know sharks live in the sea. That's it, you know of only one species of fish: Sharks. So, given the bounded set you're working with, it's a logically valid conclusion.

    Now, open the bounded set to all marine life, and the logical conclusion drawn the the new set of premises ie, crabs live in the sea. Crabs are not fish. Dolphins live in the sea. Dolphins are not fish. Sharks live in the sea. You cannot conclude in that set of premises that sharks are fish, unless you are given another premise.

    El wrongo. amigo. ALL fish don not live in the sea. Some live in streams, lakes, and other fresh water locations. I even had one in a bowl once. After some time, it wound up in a different kind of bowl.
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