Top 4

[suddenseer]

After last night, if OSU is not in the selection committee's top 4, then there is no GAWD! OH.......IO!!!

[KG4NEL]

Stay classy, Baylor students.

[W3WN]

After last night, if OSU is not in the selection committee's top 4, then there is no GAWD! OH.......IO!!!

Yawn.

The system is still corrupt. Time to do away with the Bowl Games and institute a real 16 team playoff system, just like every other NCAA football division has. But that would put an end to the corruption, and too many people are getting their pockets filled.

[KG4NEL]

Yawn.

The system is still corrupt. Time to do away with the Bowl Games and institute a real 16 team playoff system, just like every other NCAA football division has. But that would put an end to the corruption, and too many people are getting their pockets filled.

Wouldn't that just make more money for the NCAA through the hosting sites?

I never figured out the argument of how less games make them more money - if anything, I would think they'd be the ones championing 128 bowl games to be played from April to March. Unless it's a matter of control, but you'd think the branding iron fists would take care of that.

[kd6nig]

Wouldn't that just make more money for the NCAA through the hosting sites?

I never figured out the argument of how less games make them more money - if anything, I would think they'd be the ones championing 128 bowl games to be played from April to March. Unless it's a matter of control, but you'd think the branding iron fists would take care of that.

Exactly, which is why you wonder what they are smoking and haven't done it!

[W3WN]

Wouldn't that just make more money for the NCAA through the hosting sites?

I never figured out the argument of how less games make them more money - if anything, I would think they'd be the ones championing 128 bowl games to be played from April to March. Unless it's a matter of control, but you'd think the branding iron fists would take care of that.

The problem with most of the Bowl games is that they exist only to make money for the Bowl committee.

Especially with the smaller bowls, the schools are often required to buy, up front and at full ticket price, a minimum number of "guaranteed" tickets. Some of these are for the band, and for school officials/staff, and so forth. But most are to be sold to the students and alumni. Usually at less than cost to the school -- and if you really want to go to the game, you can probably buy cheaper tickets for better seats that the ones that the schools get stuck with.

So the "big payout" the schools appear to be getting is offset by travel expenses, hotel and meal expenses -- the bowls don't cover any of this -- and the unsold tickets. Many schools barely break even. And for what?

We won't even go into kickbacks, skimming off the top, and some of the other shenanigans that go on -- which have put people in jail.

Besides... aren't the schools supposed to be educating the athletes, not providing canon fodder for a tourist attraction?

[suddenseer]

The problem with most of the Bowl games is that they exist only to make money for the Bowl committee.

Especially with the smaller bowls, the schools are often required to buy, up front and at full ticket price, a minimum number of "guaranteed" tickets. Some of these are for the band, and for school officials/staff, and so forth. But most are to be sold to the students and alumni. Usually at less than cost to the school -- and if you really want to go to the game, you can probably buy cheaper tickets for better seats that the ones that the schools get stuck with.

So the "big payout" the schools appear to be getting is offset by travel expenses, hotel and meal expenses -- the bowls don't cover any of this -- and the unsold tickets. Many schools barely break even. And for what?

We won't even go into kickbacks, skimming off the top, and some of the other shenanigans that go on -- which have put people in jail.

Besides... aren't the schools supposed to be educating the athletes, not providing canon fodder for a tourist attraction?

I think it is time to start paying the student athletes who are the ones attracting all of the money. Maybe paying it into a blind trust fund that they cannot touch until they graduate. Not all of the guys I watched this weekend will be drafted into the NFL. I used to date a guy who played football for Penn State, he told me some stories of how corrupt the system is, but I can't stop watching it. I watched alot of football this weekend, I almost OD'ed.

[KG4NEL]

The problem with most of the Bowl games is that they exist only to make money for the Bowl committee.

Especially with the smaller bowls, the schools are often required to buy, up front and at full ticket price, a minimum number of "guaranteed" tickets. Some of these are for the band, and for school officials/staff, and so forth. But most are to be sold to the students and alumni. Usually at less than cost to the school -- and if you really want to go to the game, you can probably buy cheaper tickets for better seats that the ones that the schools get stuck with.

So the "big payout" the schools appear to be getting is offset by travel expenses, hotel and meal expenses -- the bowls don't cover any of this -- and the unsold tickets. Many schools barely break even. And for what?

We won't even go into kickbacks, skimming off the top, and some of the other shenanigans that go on -- which have put people in jail.

Besides... aren't the schools supposed to be educating the athletes, not providing canon fodder for a tourist attraction?

My undergrad alma mater - Virginia Tech - had almost a half-mil loss a few years ago when they played Stanford and got thumped. Probably a similar loss for the Sugar Bowl a few years ago, which was the last BCS bowl they made it to (and likely will for a while, with a 6-6 team and hopeless recruiting).

Yet, there's a shiny practice facility on campus. Somebody's making the bet that the losses will be made up somehow on the funder's end. With how crappy the on-field product has been of late, I don't know how long that'll continue...

[KG4NEL]

I think it is time to start paying the student athletes who are the ones attracting all of the money. Maybe paying it into a blind trust fund that they cannot touch until they graduate. Not all of the guys I watched this weekend will be drafted into the NFL. I used to date a guy who played football for Penn State, he told me some stories of how corrupt the system is, but I can't stop watching it. I watched alot of football this weekend, I almost OD'ed.

It's really the last bastion of (feigned) innocence. We gave up years ago that Olympians could be professionals...and somehow the world didn't end.

[suddenseer]

The Alabama/OSU game will be a historic event in my family. My Dad is a loyal dyed scarlet & gray Buckeye fan. His lady friend (from Alabama) is, you guessed it. The verbal jabs have already begun. I also have to put up with Brown's/Steeler's/Bengals infighting at family events. I am just happy to see an Ohio team do well. When I worked in Cleveland, they where celebrating the news of Art Modell's death with bar & restaurant special prices. Sheesh, I am not that big of a fan of anything to engage in that kind of enthusiasm.