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    The first time I saw a tv commercial using the music of Led Zepplin, I knew the world was changing to use what was counter culture music to sell cars.Whan I saw the music of Sid Vicious/Sex Pistols, I was totally convinced the rebels are now the ceo's. They may not 'do it' anymore, but they remember when they did.



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    Or they're just playing to a demographic to sell things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by w0aew View Post
    Or they're just playing to a demographic to sell things.
    Play to a demographic, yes, but, they are what came from us. Part of our generation. Contemporaries. The only difference is, they're making bank. BANK!

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    I doubt if Paul Revere & the Raiders represent the extreme counter culture that the Sex Pistols did. I think the Sex Pistols where completely ensconced in the system they seemed to hate. They laughed all the way to the bank, sans Sid. We all know he probably murdered his girlfriend, Nancy with a knife, and later offed himself with a heroin overdose. Seems he did not understand where reality begins, and an act ends, or he was really a sociopath.

    I think there was a time where a corporation would never even consider using the music from a band with such negative energy to sell cars. Perhaps the target audience is gen xers who many not be totally aware of the story behind the commercial's jingle. When I hear "Anarchy in the UK" as a commercial jingle for some sports drink, I will be completely convinced I am right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by suddenseer View Post
    I doubt if Paul Revere & the Raiders represent the extreme counter culture that the Sex Pistols did. I think the Sex Pistols where completely ensconced in the system they seemed to hate. They laughed all the way to the bank, sans Sid. We all know he probably murdered his girlfriend, Nancy with a knife, and later offed himself with a heroin overdose. Seems he did not understand where reality begins, and an act ends, or he was really a sociopath.
    I doubt he deliberately offed himself. They probably dried him out in jail somewhat, sometimes they give them a little bit of methadone do ease the withdrawal while they are in jail. Sometimes they give them nothing.. Either way they lose their tolerance fast. Then when they go out and cop some kick ass dope and take their usual size fix they can't tolerate it and often they OD even before they can get the spike out of their arm. It may have very well be an unintentional OD.

    I think there was a time where a corporation would never even consider using the music from a band with such negative energy to sell cars. Perhaps the target audience is gen xers who many not be totally aware of the story behind the commercial's jingle. When I hear "Anarchy in the UK" as a commercial jingle for some sports drink, I will be completely convinced I am right.
    Business will use whatever it takes to sell a product. They know their target audience and they know what will grab their attention. There is good reason they chose the version with Sid as opposed to the Sinatra version. They are aiming for a specific target.
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    Quote Originally Posted by n2ize View Post
    I doubt he deliberately offed himself. They probably dried him out in jail somewhat, sometimes they give them a little bit of methadone do ease the withdrawal while they are in jail. Sometimes they give them nothing.. Either way they lose their tolerance fast. Then when they go out and cop some kick ass dope and take their usual size fix they can't tolerate it and often they OD even before they can get the spike out of their arm. It may have very well be an unintentional OD.
    To my understanding, that is exactly what happened. i believe it was ruled an 'accidental overdose'. He still died by his own hand. I have never done heroin, so I am ignorant to it's personal realities.

    Business will use whatever it takes to sell a product. They know their target audience and they know what will grab their attention. There is good reason they chose the version with Sid as opposed to the Sinatra version. They are aiming for a specific target.
    Yep, The Sinatra crowd are watching this from a nursing home. In 20 years perhaps Sid will be singing the praises of Depends undergarments, worn "My Way".

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    Quote Originally Posted by suddenseer View Post
    To my understanding, that is exactly what happened. i believe it was ruled an 'accidental overdose'. He still died by his own hand. I have never done heroin, so I am ignorant to it's personal realities.
    It's simple really. Over time your body builds up a tolerance so a person with a high tolerance can tolerate a dose that would easily kill a person with no tolerance. When a person with a high tolerance is abruptly withdrawn from the drug, such as a stay in jail, the tolerance subsides rapidly to the point where the body can no longer tolerate the same dose. If a person is going to go back to using heroin after a period of withdrawal they should take a much lower dose than they were previously used to. If they take the same dose they were originally used to they can OD.

    This is also true in medical settings. If a perwson is undergoing opiate therapy and the therapy is stopped and then restarted again at a later time the doctors have to be careful to administer a smaller dose as the build up of tolerance occurs in medical therapy as well.

    Yep, The Sinatra crowd are watching this from a nursing home. In 20 years perhaps Sid will be singing the praises of Depends undergarments, worn "My Way".
    Hah... most likely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by suddenseer View Post
    ...When I hear "Anarchy in the UK" as a commercial jingle for some sports drink, I will be completely convinced I am right.


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