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    FCC To Stop Mailing Licenses

    The FCC has proposed in WT Docket 14-161 to discontinue, by default, mailing hard copy (paper) licenses to users of the Universal Licensing System (ULS), including the Amateur Service.

    Comments for or against are due to the FCC by November 10th.

    The docket can be found at http://www.fcc.gov/document/wtb-anno...-seeks-comment or http://transition.fcc.gov/Daily_Rele...-14-1478A1.pdf
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    I don't have any problem with that as long as a they provide a secure alternative for downloading a copy I can print out, something they don't do now.
    All the world’s a stage, but obviously the play is unrehearsed and everybody is ad-libbing his lines. Maybe that’s why it’s hard to tell if we’re living in a tragedy or a farce.

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    Well, that ought to finish off the postal service.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KJ6BSO View Post
    I don't have any problem with that as long as a they provide a secure alternative for downloading a copy I can print out, something they don't do now.
    You can still opt to have them mail you the license, if this goes through. But you have to log into your ULS account to turn the option on; it will be turned off by default.

    The ARRL is proposing in their comments that this be left "on" by default.

    I'm going to suggest that this become a checkbox on the Form 605, which you can then go and change in the ULS later if desired.
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    "The ARRL is proposing in their comments that this be left "on" by default."

    So the Newington Gang in their infinite wisdom wants to defeat the purpose of the proposal, reducing the costs of printing, handling and mailing under the Paperwork Reduction Act so everybody licensed by the FCC gets everything as before. These guys are wasting their talents on a small potatoes operation, (political comment withheld).
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    Quote Originally Posted by kb2vxa View Post
    (political comment withheld).
    This aint the zoo! Let her rip!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kb2vxa View Post
    "The ARRL is proposing in their comments that this be left "on" by default."

    So the Newington Gang in their infinite wisdom wants to defeat the purpose of the proposal, reducing the costs of printing, handling and mailing under the Paperwork Reduction Act so everybody licensed by the FCC gets everything as before. These guys are wasting their talents on a small potatoes operation, (political comment withheld).
    Not everyone who has a license knows that they have a ULS account, knows how to access it, and quite a few don't have (valid) e-mail addresses. I know that sounds hard to believe in this day & age, especially amongst those of us who are more-or-less computer/internet savvy, but it's true.

    I think Newington has the right idea but the wrong implementation.

    Just make the option to get a paper ticket a check box on the Form 605. So, when filing the old fashioned way, by paper...by default, you don't get a paper ticket, but if you check the box, you do.

    Simple.
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    Quote Originally Posted by K7SGJ View Post
    Well, that ought to finish off the postal service.
    All those FCC warning letter and NAL mailings will keep the postal service afloat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by K7SGJ View Post
    Well, that ought to finish off the postal service.
    Yeah, all my vanity call sign changes have kept them in business for nearly 10 years now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AF5TY View Post
    This aint the zoo! Let her rip!
    :rofl:
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