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    100 years ago yesterday

    Great Britain declared war on Germany, launching World War l. That, in turn, set the stage for the rise of fascism in Europe and led to World War ll, making the 20th Century the deadliest one hundred years in recorded human history.
    All the world’s a stage, but obviously the play is unrehearsed and everybody is ad-libbing his lines. Maybe that’s why it’s hard to tell if we’re living in a tragedy or a farce.

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    That is quite simplified and wrong.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causes_of_World_War_I
    Have a read up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PA5COR View Post
    That is quite simplified and wrong.
    Simplified, yes. Wrong? Please elaborate.
    All the world’s a stage, but obviously the play is unrehearsed and everybody is ad-libbing his lines. Maybe that’s why it’s hard to tell if we’re living in a tragedy or a farce.

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    "If the Republicans will stop telling lies about the Democrats, we will stop
    telling the truth about them." - Adlai Stevenson (1900-1965)
    “I’m not liberal/conservative, I’m anti-idiotarian.”
    At some point in the last 20 years, the left moved to the center, and the right moved into a mental institution

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    Read my post again. You'll notice that it does not mention the root causes of World War l at all, only the generally agreed upon start date—the date that Britain declared war on Germany.
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    All the world’s a stage, but obviously the play is unrehearsed and everybody is ad-libbing his lines. Maybe that’s why it’s hard to tell if we’re living in a tragedy or a farce.

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    Thanks to the harshness of its peace settlement (signed at Versailles in 1919), sow the seeds for a second and even more destructive global conflict which, in turn, gave rise to the Cold War.

    The Key Dates

    1914
    28th June - Assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand, heir to Austro-Hungarian Empire, by a Serb separatist at Sarajevo.


    28 July - Austro-Hungarian Empire declares war on Serbia


    31st July - Australian Government pledges support for Britain "to our last man and our last shilling"


    1 August - Germany declares war on Russia


    2nd August - German troops move into Luxembourg


    3rd August - Germany declares war on France


    3rd August - Australia offers expeditionary force of 20,000 troops


    4th August - Germany invades Belgium, Britain declares war on Germany


    5 August - Australia declares war on German. Artillery at Fort Nepeanfire at ship Pfalz to stop her leaving Port Phillip Bay - the first Allied shot fired in the war.


    6th August - Austro-Hungarian Empire declares war on Russia


    7th August - British Expeditionary Force lands in France


    10 August - Australian Imperial Forces (A.I.F) launch recruitment drive


    12 August - Britain and France declare war on Austro-Hugarian Empire


    13 August - Austro-Hungarian Empire forces invade Serbia. Establishment of the Australian Red Cross to raise funds to purchase comfort supplies for Australian service personnel overseas

    As you can see the war already started before the UK declared war on Germany.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KJ6BSO View Post
    Read my post again. You'll notice that it does not mention the root causes of World War l at all, only the generally agreed upon start date—the date that Britain declared war on Germany.
    Agreed ........ August 4th 1914 which really should've been a "day that would live in infamy" .....Britain declared war on Germany to start the Great War and by default pretty well dragged the Commonwealth in and for that 60,000 Canadians died in those amazing killing fields and trenches of Belgium and France....... all to set up in preparations for the conditions to start the Second World War :(
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    It was more complex than expressed on the TV, and little of the full build-up history has normally been explained. Wikipedia has quite a lot of information. Here is a little of my infill perhaps:

    Beginning, possibly as long ago as the reunification, the German government forsaw the need to fully equip their new army and to defend both the Eastern and Western fronts during their ambitions. These ambitions had seemed clear to France from the 19th century leading to the reinforcement of the frontier. The assassination of the headstrong Archduke Ferdinand was probably of little global importance and some nations would have breathed a sigh of relief.

    At the start of World War I, to assist in these ambitions the Germans planned to use the existing railways to carry troops and equipment through neutral Luxembourg and Belgium, annexing those countries on the way, and into France thus bypassing the conventional fortifications on the Franco-German border, and subduing France, possibly blocking Britain also even if she remained neutral, leaving more troops free to hold back the Eastern front from Russia, who had long allied with France.

    Saboteurs from Luxembourg,and especially Belgium, destroyed some of the rail infrastructure but the Germans entered France with less delay than hoped and initially there appeared little to stop them. This was when both France and Britain really started to gear up for war, building vehicles, weapons and munitions and transporting them to the front. It would have been quite impossible for Britain to ignore happenings in Europe, if the Germans had their own way, most of Europe may have become a "no-go" zone.

    The Commonwealth was a mixture of countries which the British had colonised, many people leaving Britain to settle overseas, voluntarily or otherwise, so in view of the sheer numbers of men required in battle it seemed logical to persuade, or insist on, colonists to sign up, immigrant or native regardless. Thousands volunteered and thousands died in the process.

    The Great War had to start officially on one day even though the German plans were well known in advance and the day chosen was declared. Some body had to do it so reprisal and densive action could begin.

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    Cor, you're absolutely correct about hostilities beginning before Britain declared war on Germany. However, the majority of historians say that Britain's declaration was the official beginning of The Great War, much like their declaration of war against Germany after the Nazis invaded Poland is considered the official start of the Second World War even though they'd been marching through much of Europe for some time before that.
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    Yea, they were still "Empire" back then, but fading fast. Our turn now.
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