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    Power Supply Question

    If you were going to purchase a 13.6 volt power supply, which one would you go for:

    This one

    or

    This one

    To power an Icom IC-706MKIIIG

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    To be honest, I'd try t find a deal on a brand name like Astron. But between the two you posted, I would take the Pyramid. I've used them before, and they are analog using pass transistors. The other, I know nothing about, and the build looks cheesy, and it is probably a switching supply. If so, and designed for RC charging, it's probably dirty as hell, and it is most likely all you will hear on the receiver. Just my ha' penny.
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    Quote Originally Posted by K7SGJ View Post
    To be honest, I'd try t find a deal on a brand name like Astron. But between the two you posted, I would take the Pyramid. I've used them before, and they are analog using pass transistors. The other, I know nothing about, and the build looks cheesy, and it is probably a switching supply. If so, and designed for RC charging, it's probably dirty as hell, and it is most likely all you will hear on the receiver. Just my ha' penny.
    Basically, that's what I was thinking, the second one being a switching supply, I was concerned about noise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by koØm View Post
    Basically, that's what I was thinking, the second one being a switching supply, I was concerned about noise.

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    The one bad thing about the Pyramid, is that they push the rating to the limit. If you try to run up to rated current, the voltage sags a bit, and the current rating is not continuous duty, either. My 706mk2g pulls just under 20 amps on peaks, and the PSU is rated at 25 amps, soooooooooo, it should be okay. Not knowing how old and how much use the supply has had, you might want to throw a scope (or an AC voltmeter) and a dc voltmeter across the B+ line at full transmit to see if the B+ sags much, and if a lot of AC ripple shows up. If so, you may want to change out the caps.
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    Properly designed switching supplies don't generate sufficient noise at HF. I've just about done away with all my analog supplies.

    See this from August 2009 QST: http://www.centralmiarc.com/docs/Reviews/dj175t.pdf
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    Quote Originally Posted by KJ3N View Post
    Properly designed switching supplies don't generate sufficient noise at HF. I've just about done away with all my analog supplies.

    See this from August 2009 QST: http://www.centralmiarc.com/docs/Reviews/dj175t.pdf
    I agree that properly designed switchers have come a long way in communication applications. However, the one he has linked to is probably a wideband transmitter covering DC to light.
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    Quote Originally Posted by koØm View Post
    If you were going to purchase a 13.6 volt power supply, which one would you go for:

    This one

    or

    This one

    To power an Icom IC-706MKIIIG

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    That iCharger is just a Louisville Switcher PC power supply, that's been modded.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KC2UGV View Post
    That iCharger is just a Louisville Switcher PC power supply, that's been modded.
    Wall Warts make noise but, from a completely non-scientific standpoint, I have a number of PC's and when running they haven't interfered with my radio; the real issues are 'Regulation' and risk.

    Do *I* want to hook my $900.00 radio up to a $40.00 ebay "deal" or, spend money on a "Name Brand"....decision, decisions......

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    I'm always amused at the areas were hams make "cheap" choices...
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    Quote Originally Posted by koØm View Post
    Wall Warts make noise but, from a completely non-scientific standpoint, I have a number of PC's and when running they haven't interfered with my radio; the real issues are 'Regulation' and risk.

    Do *I* want to hook my $900.00 radio up to a $40.00 ebay "deal" or, spend money on a "Name Brand"....decision, decisions......

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    Concur. The main problem with the PC power supplies is that they supply 12V, when you really need 13.8V. And, the regulation isn't too good once you get a high current draw, so the V drops to about 10.1-9V, so your radio doesn't work right (If at all).
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