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    The origin of English, Frisian...

    Seems my Frisian heritage language, Frisian, is the Source of English.
    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/0...nglish-Frisian
    Frisian is beside Dutch the 2nd language reckognised as full language spoken and written here in my province Friesland.

    Linguists consider Frisian to be the language which is most closely related to English. Today, it is spoken primarily in the Netherlands. There are about 300,000 speakers in Friesland and the West Frisian Islands. The dialect spoken in this area is known as West Frisian. There are also about 10,000 speakers of North Frisian in the German province of Schleswig-Holstein. In addition, there are about 2,000 speakers of Saterland Frisian which is spoken in the German municipality of Saterland.

    Both Saterland Frisian and North Frisian are considered endangered by lingLinguists consider Frisian to be the language which is most closely related to English. Today, it is spoken primarily in the Netherlands. There are about 300,000 speakers in Friesland and the West Frisian Islands. The dialect spoken in this area is known as West Frisian. There are also about 10,000 speakers of North Frisian in the German province of Schleswig-Holstein. In addition, there are about 2,000 speakers of Saterland Frisian which is spoken in the German municipality of Saterland. Both Saterland Frisian and North Frisian are considered endangered by linguists.



    Just as Modern English and the Modern Frisian dialects are closely related, Old English is closely related to Old Frisian. In fact, Old English is more closely related to Old Frisian than to Old Saxon. Stephen Oppenheimer, in his book The Origins of the British, points out:

    “Old English and Old Frisian both changed their treatment of vowels compared with other Low German languages such as Old Saxon.”
    In his book The Languages of the World, Kenneth Katzner provides an illustration of Frisian:

    “It hat eigenskip, dat de Fryske bydrage ta de Amerikaenske literature tige biskieden is. Der binne einlik mar trije, fjouwer Fryske nammen, dy ‘t yn de Amerikaenske literaire wrâld nei ffoaren komd binne.”

    “It stands to reason that the Frisian contribution to American literature is a very modest one. There are really only three or found Frisian names that have come to the fore in the American literary world.
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    Hmmm, it seems that linguists have finally revealed the roots of Old English, fascinating. That's what Spock would say whenever he was confused. (;->) Well, now I'm unconfused. As an aside, our Dutchman sysop on what's left of the worldwide packet radio network lives in Friesland, one of your neighbors.

    Since then as you all know, English has become a polyglot language like the Borg assimilating everything around it. New words are added all the time, slang has entered the dictionary which I don't mind, but since the advent of the internet and worse, texting, things have become horribly confusing even for this native son. Well, there's always what, me worry and DILLIGAF. (;->)
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    Same as our national language Dutch, opicked up French words English, Spanish, and Germanic words.
    In Frisian we always try to make up a new word for a new concept in Frisian, even if it needs to be descriptive.
    Locomotive, de izern lukbulg, the iron pulling body, free translated...
    Meh, as long anyone does understand what i try to put over ;)
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    I prefer the Dutch, rolls off the tongue and has a nice ring to it...... even if it makes no sense to me. (;->) Well, we have interesting words for railroad in other languages, Spanish iron rail, Portuguese street of iron and so it goes, I don't know where the Dutch got spoorweg from. (;->) Interestingly locomotive remains the same but spelling varies, except iron pulling body, Iron Man got a new job? Yeah, I'm a railfan.
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    Ah, the wellknown Frisian horse...
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friesian_horse

    The Friesian (also Frisian) is a horse breed originating in Friesland, Netherlands. Although the breed's conformation resembles that of a light draft horse, Friesians are graceful and nimble for their size. It is believed that during the Middle Ages, ancestors of Friesian horses were in great demand as war horses throughout continental Europe. Through the Early Middle Ages and High Middle Ages, their size enabled them to carry a knight in armor. In the Late Middle Ages, heavier, draft type animals were needed. Though the breed nearly became extinct on more than one occasion, the modern day Friesian horse is growing in numbers and popularity, used both in harness and under saddle. Most recently, the breed is being introduced to the field of dressage.
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    http://www.wimp.com/friesianhorse/

    Movie showing off our privince and horse ;)
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    Frisian sounds funny... like Dutch, with a Norwegian/Swedish "lilt".
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    The link didn't work but I found "horse ballet" anyway.
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