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    You wanted a fast car?

    http://www.bbc.com/autos/story/20131...nds-little-gto

    Any honest search for the planet’s best thoroughbred sports car will include a flight to Amsterdam and a 40-min train ride to the village of Lelystad. ( Netherlands)
    The D8 GTO is a brutally quick car, capable of embarrassing anything, anywhere and making its driver feel like a track-day deity. And after the victory lap, it will ferry champion and partner home again – legally – in surprising comfort.


    This GTO is fast – world-blurringly, mind-alteringly so. The car will sprint from a standstill to 62mph in 2.8 seconds, a feat the new McLaren P1 hybrid hypercar also accomplishes – but with 903hp.
    Even if you’re unlucky enough to be picked on by a car that is fractionally faster in a straight line (a Bugatti Veyron, say), the lite GTO will show its taillights as soon as the road bends.


    The car moves off calmly enough. A stout-of-shoulder grandmother could drive it in a normal traffic flow. Stomp the throttle, however, and its character changes, with the engorged turbo shrieking like a Stuka bomber in a dive.
    The GTO doesn’t punch you in the back like most very fast cars do. Launching the Donkervoort is more like surfing on the outer edge of an explosion. Under full throttle, the driver and an unwary passenger are brutalised, tenderised and squashed, struggling to breathe until the acceleration tapers off in fourth gear


    And cheap it is not, starting at 106,500 euros (about $143,000) for the base version. Opt for a fully loaded Performance model like the tested car and expect to part with at least 150,000 euros.
    And yet, there are precious few cars at any price that go, turn and stop like the D8 GTO, and few that are as lovingly hand-crafted. And that combination of virtues may just make this Dutch treat not just a remarkable performance car, but a remarkable performance bargain.
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    Meh. Check out the web site of an acquaintance of mine who built something very similar in size and performance for a tenth the price using a Honda drive train and Miata suspension bits. Mid-engined, too.

    Also, the page you linked to says that the Veyron is only "fractionally faster"; I don't know that I'd consider an extra 100mph "fractional."
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    Quote Originally Posted by KJ6BSO View Post
    Meh. Check out the web site of an acquaintance of mine who built something very similar in size and performance for a tenth the price using a Honda drive train and Miata suspension bits. Mid-engined, too.

    Also, the page you linked to says that the Veyron is only "fractionally faster"; I don't know that I'd consider an extra 100mph "fractional."
    Does this mean it is of fractal design?
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    Either of my Concours 14s will out-accelerate that car, and will do so in completely stock form.

    A new non-ABS '08-'09 model could be had recently for $7k USD - on closeout.

    Invest another $5k for a turbo that was originally designed for the ZX14, $1k for a Power Commander, accompanying remote USB LCD readout and boost gauge plus a weekend spent fitting and tuning nets you 210-240RWHP when run at 6-7PSI boost. The completed rig (including saddlebags) comes in at under 600lbs and can then reach its OEM-limited speed of 185MPH...something which is a little hard for a normally aspirated version to accomplish.

    The true performance enthusiast may wish to spend an additional ~$1700 for an Ohlins rear shock, $600-1000 for cartridge upgrades to the forks and $300 for an undertail. For a total investment of ~$16k, one now has a true sleeper superbike that can also tour if necessary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by N8YX View Post
    Either of my Concours 14s will out-accelerate that car, and will do so in completely stock form.

    A new non-ABS '08-'09 model could be had recently for $7k USD - on closeout.

    Invest another $5k for a turbo that was originally designed for the ZX14, $1k for a Power Commander, accompanying remote USB LCD readout and boost gauge plus a weekend spent fitting and tuning nets you 210-240RWHP when run at 6-7PSI boost. The completed rig (including saddlebags) comes in at under 600lbs and can then reach its OEM-limited speed of 185MPH...something which is a little hard for a normally aspirated version to accomplish.

    The true performance enthusiast may wish to spend an additional ~$1700 for an Ohlins rear shock, $600-1000 for cartridge upgrades to the forks and $300 for an undertail. For a total investment of ~$16k, one now has a true sleeper superbike that can also tour if necessary.
    Tour? At 185 MPH? All you would see is a blur. However, that is probably the best way to tour some places. ;)
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    Quote Originally Posted by K7SGJ View Post
    Tour? At 185 MPH? All you would see is a blur. However, that is probably the best way to tour some places. ;)
    The way traffic usually moves on our interstates during rush hour, every little bit of power increase you can obtain at a motorcycle's rear tire markedly increases your survival chances.
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    Ariel Atom, for the visceral and visual experience.

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    Caterham plz.
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    Yaint Merkin nunless you drive a pick up everyday. Keep yer commie cars and faggy little motorsickles offmah Merkin pavement.

    Sorry. I'm from SC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KG4CGC View Post
    Yaint Merkin nunless you drive a pick up everyday. Keep yer commie cars and faggy little motorsickles offmah Merkin pavement.

    Sorry. I'm from SC.
    I drives me a Ford pickup truck. Built in right here in Merka, too. Designed in Japan, but what the hell, right?
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