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    Quote Originally Posted by KG4NEL View Post
    That involves putting the beer down.
    And getting off their fat asses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KJ6BSO View Post
    Me to. My high school transcripts prove that.
    Even if you fast forward to 1981 it would still be impossible. :D

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    I think the way the licensing system is structured nowadays is much better than in the past. What gets me are old farts who think they are better than everyone else because they took the exam at the FCC office in 1951 or because they had to take a code test to get licensed.

    Note a lot of the questions in 1971 still revolved around tube technology which is now obsolete. Today the exams revolve around modern technology, i.e. IC's, digital circuits, computers, etc. Nobody wastes their time with tubes anymore except for crazy idiots like myself who insist on using rigs that date back to the 1950's. If I had any sense I would probably have all this stuff rolled to the junkyard and get myself a single modern digital radio. But for some crazy reason I just can't do that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KB3LAZ View Post
    Even if you fast forward to 1981 it would still be impossible. :D
    GTFOML!

    By 1981 I had passed my 3rd, 2nd, and 1st Class Radiotelephone tests at the FCC office in Philly. This was 10 years before I ever took a ham test.

    Passing the written ham tests was never an issue. That infernal beeping just made me want to puke.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KJ3N View Post
    GTFOML!

    By 1981 I had passed my 3rd, 2nd, and 1st Class Radiotelephone tests at the FCC office in Philly. This was 10 years before I ever took a ham test.

    Passing the written ham tests was never an issue. That infernal beeping just made me want to puke.
    My mother would have been entering junior high school. xD That would have made my dad about 17. I suppose they could have taken the ham test at that time if they wanted.

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    Passed the 1st Radiotelephone in June of 1974, passed the Novice exam in Jan. of 1990. The 1971 exam doesn't seem all that hard. I graduated High School that year and made my first attempt to escape from NYC. Didn't happen for another 41 years (after 3 more tries).
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    What two elements are most commonly used in the fabrication of transistors? What do the terms "alpha" and "beta" of a transistor mean? Draw the schematic diagram of a transistor
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    Oh, my goodness gracious. Those two brought back some memories.

    I took my Novice (and passed for my original WN2 license) in 1971. Free Saturday class given by members of the Livingston (NJ) ARC W2MO (club long defunct, call now assigned to another club) as part of the Livingston Student Development Program -- LSDP, and yes, we all had a snicker about those first three initials.

    Although the tests were administered by what we'd now call Volunteer Examiners, they weren't supposed to read or grade them; they'd get them in the mail from the FCC, administer the tests, mail them back. And that was AFTER we had passed our 5 WPM code tests, so you know it took a few weeks between code & theory exams (no wonder so many early Novices were weak on the code... but that's another story). Of course, the VE's did "unofficially" look at and grade the exams.

    Everyone in my class flunked the "What is the beta of a transistor" question. Of course, that's because we didn't really cover it, but the OT's from the club explained that everyone used tubes, so we probably would never need to worry about transistors... besides, you could only get a few watts output from transistors anyway. (Boy, how things have changed!). It was one of 3 I missed, though I don't recall now what the other 2 were.

    Most everyone did get the Hertz question, since this was during the "transistion" phase -- most hams still said cps or kc or Mc, Hz was still not exactly a familiar phrase. But, they did cover it, because it was the "coming thing"
    I think when I first tested, about the only transistor I remember (at least the most popular) was the CK722 by Raytheon. Although the majority of stuff I built was based on tubes, I did build all kinds of stuff around that thing. What fun.
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    I had found a circuit for a 2 or 3 transistor code practice oscillator that used CK722's. Breadboarded it using a piece of cardboard & some clips from an old Erector set. The only soldering iron I had access to was a big one that my dad used for metal sculpture, and all he had was acid core solder, so I needed to solder it with the right tools.

    Proudly brought it to a "construction night" at the local club. Set it down while talking to someone, waiting my turn at the iron. Next thing I knew, someone else (older ham) hands me a pile of parts and says "here, I took it apart for you." He did something like that to a few of the other younger hams or would-be hams there as well. Today, you'd call him an a$$wipe.

    Of course, I couldn never find the article with the schematic again, and never did rebuild it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by W3WN View Post
    I had found a circuit for a 2 or 3 transistor code practice oscillator that used CK722's. Breadboarded it using a piece of cardboard & some clips from an old Erector set. The only soldering iron I had access to was a big one that my dad used for metal sculptrure, and all he had was acid core solder, so I needed to solder it with the right tools.

    Proudly brought it to a "construction night" at the local club. Set it down while talking to someone, waiting my turn at the iron. Next thing I knew, someone else (older ham) hands me a pile of parts and says "here, I took it apart for you." He did something like that to a few of the other younger hams or would-be hams there as well. Today, you'd call him an a$$wipe.

    Of course, I couldn never find the article with the schematic again, and never did rebuild it.
    A hot poker up the ass comes to mind.

    I think my first 722 project was a keyer for cw. It used a couple of germanium diodes and small value electrolytics, (huge in size, however) a couple of resistors and a sensitive relay. The whole dit to dah ratio was determined by the value/charge/discharge rate of the caps. I found the project in a 60s or 70s Hints and Kinks from the ARRL. Problem was, with all that germanium, if I didn't bypass the crap out of the circuit, and keep it away from my homebrew, open chassis, 75 watt, 6146 transmitter, the rf would cause crazy shit to happen and then wipe out the semi conductors. A good time, none the less.
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    "I graduated High School that year and made my first attempt to escape from NYC. Didn't happen for another 41 years (after 3 more tries)."

    Such a Valiant effort Snake, they made a movie out of it. You could have saved some time by making a Thunderbolt effort.

    "Next thing I knew, someone else (older ham) hands me a pile of parts and says "here, I took it apart for you."

    A hot poker is too kind, how does a cold 100W soldering iron and a Variac sound?
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