Are "roger beeps", or otherwise known as those courtesy beeps at the end of a transmission, generally frowned upon?
Are "roger beeps", or otherwise known as those courtesy beeps at the end of a transmission, generally frowned upon?
I have personally hunted down and killed hams who use roger beeps.
Okay, not really, but they are indeed frowned upon and I have gently suggested to new hams that they turn their roger beeps off.
All the world’s a stage, but obviously the play is unrehearsed and everybody is ad-libbing his lines. Maybe that’s why it’s hard to tell if we’re living in a tragedy or a farce.
Yes, they are considered to be sporn of the CB devils...
Well, I HATE when people say "roger" or "roger roger" and even worse "over" every time they finish a sentence. I just wondered why these tones aren't used to signal the end of a transmission... Instead of the GAWD-awful and heavily dreaded "over."
Over.
It's important to recognize the difference between a repeater courtesy tone and a tone generated by the individual ham operator's transceiver. Repeater courtesy tones are fine.
Typically, you know when the transmission is over by the context but in cases where it's ambiguous, you just give your call sign and say "Back to you."
All the world’s a stage, but obviously the play is unrehearsed and everybody is ad-libbing his lines. Maybe that’s why it’s hard to tell if we’re living in a tragedy or a farce.
10-4.
over.
In SSB, it was once common (in a galaxy far far away) to use a tone at the end of each transmission due to the nature of the mode vs other modes like AM and FM. Reason being is that in difficult or poor conditions, the op on the receiving end was not always aware of when the transmitting op was finished talking.
Then came NASA on TV and millions of people heard the end beeps at the end of each time an astronaut talked to Houston/Cape C and naturally a lot of people using CB thought this was cooler than edamame feng shui and it was adapted in AM and the rest is histronic.
We don't typically say 'over' on the repeaters or simplex channels around here. Even in the days when FM rigs didn't have S meters, you could tell when the other guy stopped transmitting. If the hams in your area are so slow that you can't tell when they've ended on FM, relocation is indicated. On SSB it can be a little more difficult, but if both parties are using VOX it doesn't matter - you are supposed to carry on a 'normal' conversation - with short transmissions like you were talking on a telephone. When you aren't talking, the rig switches over to receive automagically.
There are actual ham rigs that have roger beeps from the factory?
That's a frightening thought in itself...
Jim
The machine does not isolate us from the great problems of nature but plunges us more deeply into them. - Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
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