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    Plane crash in Afghanistan.

    Been a while since I've been on the Island. Kinda got busy and forgot about it :(

    Anyway, I found via Youtube. Plane crash at Bagram Airfield apparantly today or yesterday. Apparantly a cargo plane had a bad takeoff and stalled.

    not sure how to make the YT link post as an embedded post

    Wonder is it will make mainstream media or not

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icfVsql38oc
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    There was a mention of this crash on NPR yesterday afternoon.
    All the world’s a stage, but obviously the play is unrehearsed and everybody is ad-libbing his lines. Maybe that’s why it’s hard to tell if we’re living in a tragedy or a farce.

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    I don't listen to NPR much. Didn't see it on any of the other major news networks. Guess only 7 deaths wasn't enough for them to bother :(
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    A Google search shows hits from CNN, NBC, CBS, al Jazeera, New York Times, Los Angeles Times, USA Today, Wall Street Journal, Radio Free Europe (I didn't know that was still operating) as well as NPR. So, yeah, it wasn't as huge a story as the Boston Marathon bombing or anything but it wasn't exactly ignored either.
    All the world’s a stage, but obviously the play is unrehearsed and everybody is ad-libbing his lines. Maybe that’s why it’s hard to tell if we’re living in a tragedy or a farce.

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    i meant the live Television broadcasts. A mouse farts and it makes internet news...lol.
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    That's impressive. Why would any pilot take off at that steep an angle. A plane that big stalling so low to the ground? Guess they didn't have any chance to recover.
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    Yeah, it's on mainstream media and the video looks weird. The '47 is climbing normally, dead stops mid-air like it hit a wall and pancakes into the ground. I always thought in the given interpretation mass, acceleration, momentum, and (most importantly) force are assumed to be externally defined quantities but the video at least seems to be mocking Newton.

    DAYUM! Internet warriors attack during the video! (;->) "Why would any pilot take off at that steep an angle." Nah, 7 years at EWR and almost under the glide path you see the entire plane in profile from underneath. It's an optical illusion making it look like it's standing on it's tail when the nose points 40 degrees up, normal climb angle not to be confused with rate of climb. Don't forget big planes like that don't climb at the angle the nose is pointed until they gain sufficient altitude and airspeed. When you see one climbing on takeoff from the side it looks like it's shooting for the stars (that 40 degree up angle) but moving belly first along the ground.
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    It looked to me like the climb was too steep and it stalled but that may have just been the angle of the camera. Some of the comments on the video suggest maybe freight broke loose and slid to the back of the craft, upsetting aircraft balance. That in turn would upset the angle of ascent and cause a stall.
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    It seemed to me to be climbing very slowly, I wonder if it had been overloaded, or maybe experienced an engine failure? Bagram Air Base is at high altitude, around 5000', and the weather was warm so any airplane would be very vulnerable to a density altitude situation. A sudden loss of even one engine could be disastrous.
    Last edited by NQ6U; 04-30-2013 at 01:28 PM.
    All the world’s a stage, but obviously the play is unrehearsed and everybody is ad-libbing his lines. Maybe that’s why it’s hard to tell if we’re living in a tragedy or a farce.

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    Word on the ground theorizes a load shift upon rotation. Plane was in a dead stall at the time that video was taken.
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