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    FCC to ARRL on BPL: No Reconsideration (ie, Drop Dead)

    From today's FCC digest:

    AMENDMENT OF PART 15 REGARDING NEW REQUIREMENTS AND MEASUREMENT GUIDELINES FOR ACCESS BROADBAND OVER POWER LINE SYSTEMS/CARRIER CURRENT SYSTEMS, INCLUDING BROADBAND OVER POWER LINE SYSTEMS. Denied the Petition for Reconsideration filed by the national association for Amateur Radio, formally known as the American Radio Relay League. (Dkt No. 04-37 03-104 ). Action by: the Commission. Adopted: 04/16/2013 by MO&O. (FCC No. 13-53). OET
    http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_publi...C-13-53A1.docx
    http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_publi...CC-13-53A1.pdf
    http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_publi...CC-13-53A1.txt
    1. In this Second Memorandum Opinion and Order (BPL Second MO&O), we address a petition for reconsideration filed by the national association for Amateur Radio, formally known as the American Radio Relay League (ARRL).[1] ARRL seeks reconsideration of the Commission’s Second Report and Order (BPL Second Order) in the above proceeding relating to Access Broadband over Power Line (Access BPL) systems.[2] We conclude that our previous decisions in this proceeding strike an appropriate balance between the dual objectives of providing for Access BPL technology -- which has potential applications for broadband and Smart Grid uses -- while protecting incumbent radio services against harmful interference.[3] We deny the ARRL petition for reconsideration; it does not raise new arguments based on new information in the record or on the Commission’s new analysis of limited points as directed by the Court, nor does it demonstrate any errors or omissions in the Commission’s previous decisions.



    [1] ARRL Petition for Reconsideration of Second Report and Order filed on Dec. 20, 2011 (Petition). In support of ARRL’s petition, James E. Whedbee filed a pleading titled “Informal Request in the nature of a Petition for Reconsideration and Formal Comments of James Edwin Whedbee in Support of Petition for Reconsideration filed by ARRL” on Dec. 28, 2011. He requests a complete rescission of the BPL rules and did not raise any substantive issues other than those raised by ARRL and raised previously by Mr. Whedbee himself. That pleading is also denied as discussed herein.

    [2] Second Report and Order in ET Docket Nos. 04-37, 03-104 (Amendment of Part 15 Regarding New Requirements and Measurement Guidelines for Access Broadband Over Power Line Systems, Carrier Current Systems), 26 FCC Rcd 15712 (2011) (BPL Second Order).

    [3] A “smart grid” electricity network includes an intelligent monitoring system that keeps track of all electric power flowing in the system from suppliers to consumers and provides real‑time or near-real‑time load information to permit improved transmission management. It also can utilize two‑way digital technology to control appliances at consumers' homes to reduce peaks and even out demand, to save energy, to reduce cost, and to increase reliability and transparency.
    I think this translates to:

    "We still think BPL is the greatest thing since sliced bread, so we don't care what you say. Nah, nah."
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    Same is happening here, we got the notches through, but i expect extra noise on the bands of it catches on...
    Bloody commerce..
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    I thought BPL was pretty much dead ? A few areas where it was implemented dropped it. Guess it's still alive and kicking
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    Maybe so, but the point is if the dedicated followers of Maxim hadn't raised new issues with supportive evidence there's no reason for the FCC to reconsider.

    Running over the same old ground,
    What have we found?
    The same old fears,
    Glad you're not here.
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    I suggest sic'in' Anonymous on all BPL systems.
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    of knowledge to the nipples of ignorance?" ~ Professor "Dick" Soloman



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    BPL used for home/office networks over the internal powerlines, replacing wi-fi in places where that isn't feasable.
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    What kills me is we have the spectrum to do it with WiFi on steroids with the change to digital TV.
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    "BPL used for home/office networks over the internal powerlines, replacing wi-fi in places where that isn't feasible."

    Maybe you have no problem in the Netherlands but in the UK the RSGB is at war with Ofcom's lack of enforcement dealing with interference issues.
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    Failing infrastructure is the reason that the FCC is giving this a pass without reconsideration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KG4CGC View Post
    Failing infrastructure is the reason that the FCC is giving this a pass without reconsideration.
    That, or...

    nah. OUR FCC commissioners wouldn't be open to influence, or even (*gasp!*) BRIBES, now would they? Heavens to Betsy, no, how COULD I ever think such a thing...
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