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    What Easter really means

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    I don't think it is news that the major Christian holidays have significant pagan elements.

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    Yup. Heard this before. And Jesus wasn't born at the end of December. More likely spring. At least Easter is pretty much on target when it comes to the time of happening.
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    Quote Originally Posted by N2RJ View Post
    I don't think it is news that the major Christian holidays have significant pagan elements.
    No, you're right. Christianity feels the need to try and destroy anything seen as a threat to it.

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    I thought Ishtar was one of Hefner's bunnies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by w0aew View Post
    I thought Ishtar was one of Hefner's bunnies.
    I thought it was a movie that bombed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by N2NH View Post
    Yup. Heard this before. And Jesus wasn't born at the end of December. More likely spring. At least Easter is pretty much on target when it comes to the time of happening.
    If he was born at all. Very little evidence exists that he was, and the story doesn't jibe with historical accounts of what happened in the region during that period.
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    Please compare, this could get interesting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KC2UGV View Post
    If he was born at all. Very little evidence exists that he was, and the story doesn't jibe with historical accounts of what happened in the region during that period.
    World's best selling books sez he did. Give it a read and then let me know.

    1. The Bible "No one really knows how many copies of the Bible have been printed, sold, or distributed. The Bible Society’s attempt to calculate the number printed between 1816 and 1975 produced the figure of 2,458,000,000. A more recent survey, for the years up to 1992, put it closer to 6,000,000,000 in more than 2,000 languages and dialects. Whatever the precise figure, the Bible is by far the bestselling book of all time." I quit counting the various editions on LT at 10,140. I'm sure there's more.
    Between 2.46 Billion and 6 Billion sold.

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    Then there's the view of Jews. Some say he was a good Jew, others...

    Judaism generally views Jesus as one of a number of false messiahs who have appeared throughout history.[1] Jesus is viewed as having been the most influential, and consequently the most damaging, of all false messiahs.[2] However, since the mainstream Jewish belief is that the Messiah has not yet come and that the Messianic Age is not yet present, the total rejection of Jesus as either messiah or deity in Judaism has never been a central issue for Judaism. At the heart of Judaism are the Torah, its commandments, the Tanakh, and ethical monotheism such as in the Shema — all of which predated Jesus.
    Judaism has never accepted any of the claimed fulfillments of prophecy that Christianity attributes to Jesus. Judaism also forbids the worship of a person as a form of idolatry, since the central belief of Judaism is the absolute unity and singularity of God.[3][4] Jewish eschatology holds that the coming of the Messiah will be associated with a specific series of events that have not yet occurred, including the return of Jews to their homeland and the rebuilding of The Temple, a Messianic Age of peace[5] and understanding during which "the knowledge of God" fills the earth,[6] and since Jews believe that none of these events occurred during the lifetime of Jesus (nor have they occurred afterwards, except for the return of many Jews to their homeland in Israel), he is not a candidate for messiah.
    Judaism's view of Jesus

    Let's see what Islam says about Jesus...

    Isa ( Arabic: عيسى, Transliteration: ʿĪsā ), known as Jesus in the New Testament is considered to be a Messenger of God and the Masih (Messiah) in Islam [1] who was sent to guide the Children of Israel (banī isrā'īl) with a new scripture, the Injīl or Gospel.[2] The belief in Jesus (and all other messengers of God) is required in Islam, and a requirement of being a Muslim. The Quran mentions Jesus by name twenty-five times, while it only mentions Muhammad by name four times.[3][4] It states that Jesus was born to Mary (Arabic: Maryam) as the result of virginal conception, a miraculous event which occurred by the decree of God (Arabic: Allah). To aid in his ministry to the Jewish people, Jesus was given the ability to perform miracles (such as healing the blind, bringing dead people back to life, etc.), all by the permission of God rather than of his own power. According to the Quran, Jesus, although appearing to have been crucified, was not killed by crucifixion or by any other means, instead, "God raised him unto Himself". Like all prophets in Islam, Jesus is considered to have been a Muslim (i.e., one who submits to the will of God), as he preached that his followers should adopt the "straight path" as commanded by God. Islam rejects the Trinitarian Christian view that Jesus was God incarnate or the son of God, that he was ever crucified or resurrected, or that he ever atoned for the sins of mankind. The Quran says that Jesus himself never claimed any of these things, and it furthermore indicates that Jesus will deny having ever claimed divinity at the Last Judgment, and God will vindicate him.[5] The Quran emphasizes that Jesus was a mortal human being who, like all other prophets, had been divinely chosen to spread God's message. Islamic texts forbid the association of partners with God (shirk), emphasizing a strict notion of monotheism (tawhīd).
    Numerous titles are given to Jesus in the Quran and in Islamic literature, the most common being al-Masīḥ ("the messiah"). Jesus is also, at times, called "Seal of the Israelite Prophets", because, in general Muslim belief, Jesus was the last prophet sent by God to guide the Children of Israel. Jesus is seen in Islam as a precursor to Muhammad, and is believed by Muslims to have foretold the latter's coming.[6][7]
    Muslims believe that Jesus will return to earth near the Day of Judgment to restore justice and to defeat Masih ad-Dajjal ("the false messiah", also known as the Antichrist)
    Jesus in Islam

    Agnostics have to see. Atheists minds are set. But the three major religions? They all agree.

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