The Car That Runs On AIR. (Not The Onion)

[N2NH]

Yep. A real car and it runs on AIR.

We breathe it. Why not drive it?
Peugeot Citroen this week introduced a car that runs on air. The car manufacturer said the vehicle should be available by 2016.
"We're quite confident," company spokesman Jean-Baptiste Thomas told The Huffington Post on Wednesday.
Thomas said the company already had developed four of its "Hybrid Air" prototypes and driven them 12,000 miles.

Peugeot To Produce Air Powered Car by 2016.

But wait there's more! The Peugeot car is a hybrid. This car is powered by Air only:



Seeing is believing. Air is the energy of the future. Zero emissions and the technology is here now.

[KG4CGC]

Virginia legislatures would go around slashing their tires while screeching, "Where's your precious air now?"

[PA5COR]

It is an already older concept.
The assembly plant is due to start construction in early 2002 and be ready for production in 2003. The car has a 50hp engine, a range of 312 Km (195 Miles) and can run 100Km (62.5 Miles) on ?0.6 ($0.625USD). Top speed is 120Km/h (75MPH). It can be refueled in around 3 minutes by a compressed air machine (300 bar internal pressure) in a propperly equiped gas station, or in around 4 hours by a built-in air compressor plugged into a household-variety power socket. An outline of the concept can be found here.
Although initially slated for the public transportation, taxis,distribution and logistics markets (evaluation units on pre-order from several local companies), it is expected to have some penetration into the consumer market.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motor_D..._International

[KG4CGC]

Last time this was brought up, my understanding was that the US would not allow it here. Similar to the 75mpg VWs. Not allowed on US roads.

[N2NH]

Last time this was brought up, my understanding was that the US would not allow it here. Similar to the 75mpg VWs. Not allowed on US roads.

New York has been using LNG* on their buses for at least 15 years as a "green" alternative to gas. I wonder how hard it would be to convert them to Liquid Nitrogen?

*Liquified Natural Gas

[n2ize]

New York has been using LNG* on their buses for at least 15 years as a "green" alternative to gas. I wonder how hard it would be to convert them to Liquid Nitrogen?

*Liquified Natural Gas

Think about it. What would be the difference between using the stored potential energy of nonflammable compressed or liquefied nitrogen to perform the work of moving a bus versus using a combustible fuel like natural gas ?

[KG4CGC]

New York has been using LNG* on their buses for at least 15 years as a "green" alternative to gas. I wonder how hard it would be to convert them to Liquid Nitrogen?

*Liquified Natural Gas

In the late 70s and 80s I saw quite a few LNG fleet vehicles around here. Delivery vans and other vehicles in thatr size range, even converted passenger vans used by florists. By 1986/87 they just faded away.

[N2NH]

In the late 70s and 80s I saw quite a few LNG fleet vehicles around here. Delivery vans and other vehicles in thatr size range, even converted passenger vans used by florists. By 1986/87 they just faded away.

Last that I saw, they still had a fleet of those buses in West Brooklyn. Seemed to work as the air was pretty good there.

The second air car is not converting Liquid Nitrogen into electricity to run an electric motor. It is actually running the engine.

[KG4CGC]

Last that I saw, they still had a fleet of those buses in West Brooklyn. Seemed to work as the air was pretty good there.

The second air car is not converting Liquid Nitrogen into electricity to run an electric motor. It is actually running the engine.

They could use a diesel engine to turn the compressor when it needed a charge. It would hardly use jack shit for fuel as the engine wouldn't have to be over 500cc. An electric motor with a weighted flywheel could be turned off the compressed air engine to keep the electricals going. When you come to a stop, the flywheel would keep it turning but there would also be a battery, just one or two car battery sized batteries, and a couple of large capacitors to keep the headlights up at night when at a stop as well as other electrical need in the interior.
I discussed this with some other hams in person in 2007 and they all agreed with me. Therefore, I am indisputable.

[n2ize]

Last that I saw, they still had a fleet of those buses in West Brooklyn. Seemed to work as the air was pretty good there.

Con Edison also runs a lot of their vehicles on natural gas.

] The second air car is not converting Liquid Nitrogen into electricity to run an electric motor. It is actually running the engine.

You are correct. But energy has to be consumed to compress the nitrogen in order to make liquid nitrogen. This is not done in the car this is done elsewhere and requires energy. Some of that energy is later consumed when the potential energy of the nitrogen is converted to mechanical energy to run the car.