Locked threads...... Feeling kind of QRZish up in heah......

[KA9MOT]

RE: KA4DPO's thread about the Gun Show and general gun questions and answers. Locked and told to take it to the "Gun Debate Thread". Did anybody see a debate? It was a discussion about Guns.

Has the QRZ moderatorship styles started rubbing off on the Island Mods? Is the power so great, that mere mortals are unable to prevent it from morphing to NAZI Tactics?

NO GUN DISCUSSION FOR YOU!

The least you could have done was wait for it to become a debate thread if that is what you expected it to become.

Now that this is becoming a trend, do we start worrying about being banned for what we say, while others say far worse are allowed to stay because they are more popular?

Will the Island metamorphosis into DA ZED?

[W4GPL]

I advise you look at the thread again..

"Obama gonna take all our guns"...

"De scared white people be quaking."

"Just what we need. Another fucking paranoid gun thread."

You're obviously seeing just what you want to see.

None of that is related to the technical discussion of guns. If y'all can control yourselves, I completely agree with a thread worthy of the technical and hobbyist merits of guns... but some of you can't. So.. fuck it. I'm not putting up with 100 threads that turn into pissing matches. This is the one subject we've (I've) decided to do this with -- it's an experiment. If you think we're turning into QRZ, I take great exception to that notion. You're entitled to your own opinions, but not your own facts.

[W4GPL]

Furthermore, why don't you go out and do better? Y'all have finally chased off Luke because he's sick of this kind of shit. And several others of us aren't far behind. Bicker, piss, and moan.. see how fast we choose not to give a damn when we're doing the best we can with the best of intentions. I'm tired of this shit.

[KB3LAZ]

No, I dint think things are getting zedish in that way. The topic isnt forbiden, it just has a dedicated arena. Do I find it sad that it has to come to that, yes but we have only ourselves to blame.

There comes a time where no matter how much you like a place you will find something that upsets or irritates you, thus is life. No one place can be a utopia for everyone. I am sure there are small aspects of the island that get on all of our nerves from time to time, even if only for a short period of time but over all it is a great place.

JMO but one I am willing to bet others share. TaKe it for what it is worth.

[KA9MOT]

I see a couple of off topic comments (2 appear to be humor) that the topic of the thread whizzed right passed. I still don't see anything that resembles any kind of debate.

[KA9MOT]

No, I dint think things are getting zedish in that way. The topic isnt forbiden, it just has a dedicated arena. Do I find it sad that it has to come to that, yes but we have only ourselves to blame.

There comes a time where no matter how much you like a place you will find something that upsets or irritates you, thus is life. No one place can be a utopia for everyone. I am sure there are small aspects of the island that get on all of our nerves from time to time, even if only for a short period of time but over all it is a great place.

JMO but one I am willing to bet others share. TaKe it for what it is worth.

I can go along with that. And some of the insane crap, should be banned. That thread however was informative and everybody was playing together just fine. I see no reason for to have been locked down other then the fact that it was about guns. It may have gone to hell in a hand basket, and if it did, that would have been the time to lock it down. There was absolutely no debate, so why send it off to the debate thread?

[W4GPL]

I think you can give us a little leeway after 5+ years of experience with y'all. We usually know where the wind is blowing. We do all we can not to emulate QRZ.. but sometimes a snap judgment is the best way to go to protect the general morale of the forums. For what it's worth, this was already privately addressed among other members and debated among the staff -- your concerns are not new.. we have and continue to consider the best course of action. Which I guarantee is a lot more than QRZ would ever do...

I again stress privately addressed. You felt the need to bring this into the public light, do not expect a timid response. When Luke gives up on y'all, it's clearly time for change.

[KA9MOT]

Furthermore, why don't you go out and do better? Y'all have finally chased off Luke because he's sick of this kind of shit. And several others of us aren't far behind. Bicker, piss, and moan.. see how fast we choose not to give a damn when we're doing the best we can with the best of intentions. I'm tired of this shit.

You'll have to forgive me, I don't know who Luke is. I know only know the names of those I've had direct dealing with in one way or another. Unless I look up your callsign or you tell me, I don't know your name... including you. That is why I put mine in my signature.

GO out and do better? I can't do any better, nor am I saying I could. I have nothing but respect for the moderation here.... however, sometimes things are done that I disagree with and I choose to call it as I see it. If you can show me I am wrong, I'll say I am wrong. Otherwise, I have a tendency to beat that horse long after he has expired. I don't think I'm wrong in this case. You certainly allow all manner of abuse in the political threads, yet close down a gun thread where everybody was behaving themselves because it might get ugly.

[KA9MOT]

I think you can give us a little leeway after 5+ years of experience with y'all. We usually know where the wind is blowing. We do all we can not to emulate QRZ.. but sometimes a snap judgment is the best way to go to protect the general morale of the forums. For what it's worth, this was already privately addressed among other members and debated among the staff -- your concerns are not new.. we have and continue to consider the best course of action. Which I guarantee is a lot more than QRZ would ever do...

I again stress privately addressed. You felt the need to bring this into the public light, do not expect a timid response. When Luke gives up on y'all, it's clearly time for change.

Fair enough! The problem with privately addressing the issue is that the masses don't know it was dealt with privately. Somebody is bound to bring it up publicly. That is something you can count on. Please remove the QRZ part from the title. It was a smart assed comment designed to make sure the thread was noticed. Hell, for that matter, feel free to delete the thread.

[KB3LAZ]

Luke, much like a few others is a staple of this site. I dont know as much as I probably should about a lot of people around here, seeings as how much time I have spent here over the years but what I do know is that unlike on other radio related boards, most if not all of the staff have day jobs and are not retired. They devote as much time to this site as they can. They do so without complaint 99% of the time. Will we or they always agree, highly doubtful but the point is that the time they dedicate is for us.

If I sound like I am taking this personally, I may be, just a bit. This site has offered me and many others something that no other has, a second home. Not just another forum to chat on. We get to know one another, personally; more and more with each passing day.

Come whatever may, at the end of the day, the island is home. Anything else is just a forum.