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    Copyright Law ?

    A friend of mine posed this question to me. He was visiting a website which has some sheet music. He was interested in printing out a particular peice of music. However, he learned that it has been out of print for many years and although it is in the public domain in Canada it may not be in public domain here in the USA.

    In any event he is afraid it might still be under copyright here in the USA. Although it was displayed on his web page and all he needed to do was hit PRINT to make a hard copy he was afraid to do so. He was afraid that he might get in some trouble with the law if it is still under copyright and if he prints a hard copy.

    Is this individual being a bit overly cautious ? I tend to think so,.
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    Yes. If it's out of copyright in Canada, it's out of copyright here as well, since both parties signed the WIPO treaty.

    Plus, nobody is going to nail his ass for a sheet of 50 year old music that he prints out once.

    Oh, yeah: I am not a lawyer. Should you need legal advice, please consult an attorney licensed in your area.
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    print the sheet.
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    Copyright law involves publishing and/or using material for commercial, not private use. For that reason should what he published be used for financial gain and he not being in control of it he could be in a grey area. Still, like the man said it is highly unlikely, the material having gone PD a long time ago. Speaking of music copyright gone from the sublime to ridiculous is the song Happy Birthday. Yes it IS copyright so a hired clown singing it at a birthday party is subject to prosecution. Pretty ridiculous, isn't it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kb2vxa View Post
    Copyright law involves publishing and/or using material for commercial, not private use. For that reason should what he published be used for financial gain and he not being in control of it he could be in a grey area. Still, like the man said it is highly unlikely, the material having gone PD a long time ago. Speaking of music copyright gone from the sublime to ridiculous is the song Happy Birthday. Yes it IS copyright so a hired clown singing it at a birthday party is subject to prosecution. Pretty ridiculous, isn't it?
    Hello.

    Happy Birthday is copyrighted.
    However this does not mean you can not print or sing the song, provided you do not profit in any way.
    http://www.snopes.com/music/songs/birthday.asp
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Happy_Birthday_to_You
    If you sing this on stage as a part of a school play you are fine, provided there are no limitations on admission and there is no revenue involved.
    If you sing this on stage at a rock concert, even if you are not a performer, everyone has a problem if copyright royalties are not paid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by W2IBC View Post
    print the sheet.
    a sheet I print. Upon a printed sheet I sit...

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    Quote Originally Posted by kb2vxa View Post
    Copyright law involves publishing and/or using material for commercial, not private use. For that reason should what he published be used for financial gain and he not being in control of it he could be in a grey area. Still, like the man said it is highly unlikely, the material having gone PD a long time ago. Speaking of music copyright gone from the sublime to ridiculous is the song Happy Birthday. Yes it IS copyright so a hired clown singing it at a birthday party is subject to prosecution. Pretty ridiculous, isn't it?
    Gretchen was prosecuted for singing Happy Birthday at a party. It ended in a hung jury. All men?

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    I must be hearing LDEs, it took 46 minutes to get the ping from Texas.

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    So, if you sing "You Light Up My Life" a lawyer might darken your door?
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    Quote Originally Posted by N2NH View Post
    So, if you sing "You Light Up My Life" a lawyer might darken your door?
    Yes. Even worse, though--an enraged music lover armed with a semi-automatic viola di gamba might "take you out." The song has that effect on some people...
    All the world’s a stage, but obviously the play is unrehearsed and everybody is ad-libbing his lines. Maybe that’s why it’s hard to tell if we’re living in a tragedy or a farce.

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