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Thread: Contest Butt Hurt coming to a RX near you. CQWW SSB right around the corner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KJ3N View Post
    I used to be one of those people who used to bitch. After a while, I grew up and came to like the opportunities that contests present.



    I can't see that we're in any serious danger of losing the HF bands. I'd be more concerned about UHF and up.



    The "problem" is with the haters, not the contests. From what I've observed, the haters fall into the following categories:

    1) People who have poor to appalling HF stations. Indoor antennas and low antennas (under 30 feet high for dipoles) are not going to produce a signal that can be heard through the din of a contest. They may be able to make contacts on an empty band, but the slightest amount of band activity makes them disappear into the background.

    2) People who have radios that are 30+ years old, or dating back to Marconi. Broad as a barn door and incapable of proper filtering when the band starts to get crowded. A TS-520 or TS-820 is fine for day to day, middle of the week, conditions. So is a TS-430, TS-440, IC-718, or FT-101. They are not, however, fit for contest level activity. Especially if they are stock radios without any additional filters.

    3) Certain people who think their mode of choice is the only one that is valid. This group tends to be what I refer to as Single Mode Sad Sacks. They are completely unwilling to switch to a different mode and try something else. If, for example, they use SSB and there's an SSB contest, then all the bands are useless and they can't operate at all. It would never occur to them to try switching to CW, RTTY, or trying a WARC band.

    4) Frequency Squatters. This group takes many forms. The basic form is that they have used (insert frequency) since Christ was a corporal (7 days a week) and no one is allowed to use that frequency, ever. Two examples of this on the 20m band are the SSTVers and the MMSN. Other examples are any one of the various nets that infest certain bands, usually 40m and 75m. It doesn't matter to these groups if the frequency isn't being used at the moment, or won't be used for the next 2 hours. It's their frequency, so fuck off. If you happen to be operating on "their" frequency when they come on, they'll try to run you off. The SSTV people are famous for this one. If they find anyone on 14.230, all of a sudden 5 SSTV stations start transmitting all at once.

    I like contests because they are a good way to measure the effectiveness of my station. When I can step into the fray during CQWW SSB and make contacts among the high power stations, using just 100 watts, it validates all the work I put into making and deploying the 5 wire antennas I have.

    As an aside, I highly encourage you to get away from VHF and UHF FM as soon as you can. IMO, HF operation is far more interesting. At the very least, you should investigate weak signal (SSB/CW) operation on 2m and 70cm.
    +1 to all of the that, especially the frequency squatter comment.
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    Speaking of Contest Butt Hurt....

    http://forums.qrz.com/showthread.php...est-quot/page2

    So predictable..... :roll:
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    Quote Originally Posted by W3WN View Post
    I'll keep an ear open for you, though I don't plan on spending a lot of time on the air this weekend. I have a few projects to finish up.
    It will likely be sunday as i have to work friday and saturday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KB3LIX View Post
    I enjoy hearing the bitching, whining, moaning, growning and gnashing of teeth over contests. I used to try to educate the contest haters, now I just try to EGG them on.

    Maybe I can raise their blood pressure to the boiling point, ruin their day, cause their stomach ulcer to flare up, and generally F*** they up. They deserve the aggrivation.

    If they don't like contests...do something else.

    Wash the car, mow the lawn (or rake leaves in fall), walk the dog or the wife which ever is appropriate, go out to dinner or just take a long easy weekend AWAY from amateur radio.

    All their whining etc has not changed the contest landscape, it has not stopped or delayed any contest to date and never will. Contests are a fact of life...either live with them, or get so upset that you stroke out...Either way it is YOUR choice.

    Me...My choice is to try and maintain my SO-LP First place finish in the third call district. I got last years certificate a few months ago.

    Enjoy the slugfest !
    Bill,

    You going to make WACOM this year?

    My SS cert came the other day. I really like the redesign, though I wish they'd kept the orientation portrait instead of changing to landscape (not a fatal issue, mind you). Having the Clean Sweep endorsement on it was a nice touch, too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by N7YA View Post
    It will likely be sunday as i have to work friday and saturday.
    Sounds like a plan. And I won't ask about 160 this time, honest.

    My Saturday non-radio plans include finishing the trim on the side of the deck & getting the FPV in place. If all goes well, and I get a couple of holes drilled through cinder block, I may actually be using it on Sunday. We'll see how ambitious I get (I should have started on that after work today, just no energy today)
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    i love it when SWLers use "radiosport."
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    Quote Originally Posted by n6hcm View Post
    i love it when SWLers use "radiosport."
    how bout them Giants?
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    Some people I've met that hate contests feel that way because they had incidents with bad contesters and they assume all contesters are lids. There are so many "haters" in ham radio. There are the contest haters, the ssb haters, the AM haters, the VHF/UHF haters, the 75 m haters, the ____________ (fill in the blank) haters. Everyone seems to think their way of doing things is the BEST and ONLY way. That is one reason why I like things that don't have to involve people. People are overrated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WU9G View Post
    how bout them Giants?
    The did pretty well against the Tigers last night. But the Series has a ways to go yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by W3WN View Post
    Bill,

    You going to make WACOM this year?

    My SS cert came the other day. I really like the redesign, though I wish they'd kept the orientation portrait instead of changing to landscape (not a fatal issue, mind you). Having the Clean Sweep endorsement on it was a nice touch, too.
    Not going to make it again this year.
    My health has taken a dive over the last year,
    and I spend most of my time at home.
    IF I am lucky, I get out twice a month.
    Once to go to the quack...er, I mean DOCTOR
    and a second to go for a ride to CVS to get prescriptions filled.

    There is no way I can stand and walk-around that much.

    Have a good time, I hear they are expecting a big crowd again this year.

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