New York City Indians

[N2NH]

Last time I crossed the GWB the toll was $35. Couldn't believe it.

They're talking about raising it again. I can safely say that because they're ALWAYS talking about raising the tolls. Granted, it is one-way. There is a way around that. Come into the city via the Verrazano Bridge and leave via the George Washington Bridge. For some reason known only to Staten Islanders, the VZ's toll booths work in the opposite direction of every Hudson crossing in the rest of the city and state.

The downside is that you have to traverse the Gowanus and Brooklyn-Queens Expressway (BQE) and cross another bridge to get to Manhattan.

[NQ6U]

They're talking about raising it again. I can safely say that because they're ALWAYS talking about raising the tolls. Granted, it is one-way. There is a way around that. Come into the city via the Verrazano Bridge and leave via the George Washington Bridge. For some reason known only to Staten Islanders, the VZ's toll booths work in the opposite direction of every Hudson crossing in the rest of the city and state.

The downside is that you have to traverse the Gowanus and Brooklyn-Queens Expressway (BQE) and cross another bridge to get to Manhattan.

Not a practical solution when you're driving an 18-wheeler and headed to points north.

[VE7DCW]

Last time I crossed the GWB the toll was $35. Couldn't believe it.

Someone charges $35 .....to cross a damn bridge?????? WTF !!!!

One of the brand new bridges on the outskirts of Vancouver crossing the Fraser River will only be charging a toll of about 4 dollars a vehicle to cross when the damn thing opens around December ........ personally my tax dollars built the thing and the transit corporation thinks it's a beautiful revenue source!!!

[N2NH]

Not a practical solution when you're driving an 18-wheeler and headed to points north.

Bridges cost a lot the closer you get to New York. There's I=84 that goes across the Newburgh-Beacon Bridge I see a lot of trucks on that. Then there' the Bear Mountain Bridge (not really for 18-Wheelers). It has a narrow, steep, twisting and winding mountain road to get to and from it. Dunno where you were headed, but here's the toll schedule anyway.

[n2ize]

They're talking about raising it again. I can safely say that because they're ALWAYS talking about raising the tolls. Granted, it is one-way. There is a way around that. Come into the city via the Verrazano Bridge and leave via the George Washington Bridge. For some reason known only to Staten Islanders, the VZ's toll booths work in the opposite direction of every Hudson crossing in the rest of the city and state.

The downside is that you have to traverse the Gowanus and Brooklyn-Queens Expressway (BQE) and cross another bridge to get to Manhattan.

Are you sure you want to send him to the Gowanus and the BQE ?? I mean, that is just plain ...mean !!

[W1GUH]

I have friends in a lot of the NYPD units. There's a reason why this isn't common knowledge so if you get a different answer, there's probably a good reason for that. It's not the antennas that they're looking for, but people who don't belong on the roof.

The reason for making access to rooftops so hard goes back to the 1977 blackout when many snipers took to the rooftops. Landlords were required to put alarms on roof access doors and provisions were written into most leases that required permission to go on to the roof.

Thanks for that -- didn't know that was a legal requirement. My old building had no restrictions on roof access -- no alarms or anything, but I don't know if they just ignored the requirement or what. And in my current building, it started out with no restrictions but then they installed an alarm. Wondered why, and this is probably the reason. I'll check into getting the so-called "permission" to be out there. I LOVE being on the roof.

[W1GUH]

Someone charges $35 .....to cross a damn bridge?????? WTF !!!!

One of the brand new bridges on the outskirts of Vancouver crossing the Fraser River will only be charging a toll of about 4 dollars a vehicle to cross when the damn thing opens around December ........ personally my tax dollars built the thing and the transit corporation thinks it's a beautiful revenue source!!!

Yea, it's totally ridiculous. And what's really, really galling about Port Authority tolls is that they're being raised, in part, to finance the construction of the new WTC!!!!

Car toll on PA bridges and tunnels today is $12. The Tappan Zee is $5.

[N2NH]

Are you sure you want to send him to the Gowanus and the BQE ?? I mean, that is just plain ...mean !!

A lot of truckers use that route as it is probably a bit better than the Cross Bronx Expressway or Major Deegan Expressway. The Major Deegan used to be the best of those four, but now it's becoming Mad Max territory. Nobody knows how to drive on it. I didn't relax until I crossed the Tappan Zee Bridge on the way back a couple of months ago.

[W1GUH]

Oh, and one more thing. It's good that NY was built by New York Indians. So glad it wasn't the Cleveland Indians.



(Apologies to Ma and Pa Kettle for stealing one of their jokes!)

[W1GUH]

A lot of truckers use that route as it is probably a bit better than the Cross Bronx Expressway or Major Deegan Expressway. The Major Deegan used to be the best of those four, but now it's becoming Mad Max territory. Nobody knows how to drive on it. I didn't relax until I crossed the Tappan Zee Bridge on the way back a couple of months ago.

"Mad Max territory"? Apart from the occasional death-with crotch rocketeers and drivers, I haven't seen much different over the last couple of decades. But then, I don't access the GWB from the Deegan, alway pass it. And traffic "seems" a "little better", or at least not as bad as it was. What have you observed?