Here we go again. Another petition against HOAs.

[W3WN]

On a slightly related note... I'm just about to the point on the deck project that I should be starting on the flag pole.

Had a little trouble drilling holes last night (my first hole ended up in a unexpected place... right behind a 2x4 that was mounted on the wall, currently holding up antenna aluminum), but did finally get it done. I have the coax feed in place; ran out of daylight before I got the electrical wiring in. That's tonight's part. Once I have the wire in place, and the outdoor outlet boxes mounted, I can seal the holes, add some more trim, and then it's FPV time. Should be this weekend, weather and family permitting.

There are many hams who for one reason or another are stuck in an HOA or CC&R situation that doesn't permit overt antennas. But covert/stealth antennas are another story. And the Flag Pole Vertical is just too good an idea for a covert/stealth antenna to pass up... even if I don't have the restrictions myself...

[W3WN]

It's also likely one of the reasons for the housing market collapse. Too many people betting on ever-rising home prices, and expecting quick flips, and moving like renters.

A friend of my friend KB3ERQ used to have a side business "flipping" houses. He'd buy them cheap, do some cosmetic fix-ups, and sell them for a nice profit. Until the housing market collapsed... from what Ben tells me, his friend was going broke making the payments on a house he doesn't live in, that is now "under water" (loan is more than he can currently sell the house for). So he may have to walk away and abandon the house to the lender... which will basically wipe out all the 'gains' he made over the first few years.

That is the risk you take as a speculator, of course. One can presume he knew the risks...

[KC2UGV]

That is the risk you take as a speculator, of course. One can presume he knew the risks...

And that's the problem with easy credit: Housing is not a commodity market.

I hope the credit constriction never lets up. Will it keep some great would-be homeowners from owning a home? Sure. Will it prevent another housing market collapse? You bet.

[n2ize]

Well, if you live in an HOA where there are antenna restrictions you haver to find work-arounds. Hide some wire in a tree. Or rig up an antenna that can be pulled up at sunset and pulled down at sunrise. Most HOA cops aren't going to see the antenna at night. Set up a hidden antenna, or an indoor antenna. I think it's much harder to operate in an apartment than in an HOA, I agree HOA's suck but if you are stuck in one you have to learn to sneak around the rules.

[n2ize]

http://www.change.org/petitions/the-...and-developers

Some folks just don't know when to quit while they're behind. :roll:

When are these people going to learn that the deck is stacked against them? When are they going to learn that the numbers just don't add up in their favor?

Problem is nowadays HOA's and POA's are hard to avoid unless you move to a rural area or an old and well established neighborhood and these are not always convenient or available. Some states are worst than others with respect to HOA's. One thing I like about NY is that its pretty easy to avoid HOA's. Most suburbs are older established neighborhoods that have been around for a while and don;t have HOA's and once you drift away from the city and suburbs the state turns rural with little restrictions. Other states are not so lucky and often any neighborhood you buy a home is covered by HOA's with some pretty severe restrictions. Another thing is that it discriminates against children who may be or want to become hams. Often parents will buy a home based on what is convenient for them but not with any regard for the interests of their kids. So they buy into an HOA neighborhood and the kid strings up an aerial and next thing you know is two days later some snobby yuppie with his nose turned up is leaning on the doorbell demanding that that ugly thing be removed at once.

[n2ize]

Freedom to blight the sight lines of others because in ham radio it is all about
me

Much ?

[PA5COR]

Yep, too much.....

[N7YA]

Unlike a lot of people these days, we didn't buy the place as an investment. We plan to live here until we die. We don't care if it's not "perfect" or "new". I treat a house as a home to be lived in, not a financial tool. IMHO, too many people treat their houses as the latter. That's probably one of the reasons that so many people have mortgages that are now underwater.

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Bingo! This is one of the main driving factors for HOA's...resale value. Except for the fact that most HOA people are farting mummy dust and will likely die there anyway. But with many HOA board members, they are petty, ignorant and high strung. No real sense of enjoyment to begin with. We are going to sell this one next year (after only a year and a half) because we now know what we wished we knew then, we dont want to live here. We want a house in a place that makes us happy to wake up in every day.

[KK4AMI]

Much ?

Good Grief, I can't keep 4 lines untangled, how does he do it?

[N7YA]

Burt intentionally tangles them up, then attacks the beachgoers for it.