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    Here we go again. Another petition against HOAs.

    http://www.change.org/petitions/the-...and-developers

    Some folks just don't know when to quit while they're behind. :roll:

    When are these people going to learn that the deck is stacked against them? When are they going to learn that the numbers just don't add up in their favor?
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    The FCC, based on past experience, will treat the petition exactly the same whether it has one signature or 10,000.

    The US Senate is unlikely to pass a bill to overturn HOA's regardless of how many petitions are submitted. If a Senate solution is desired, first, you have to find a Senator willing to introduce the legislation... second, you have to hope that the Senator has the means or chutzpah to make sure that the proposed legislation doesn't die in committee... and third, you then have to convince at least 50 other senators to vote in favor of it.

    One petition sent generically to the Senate as a body just ain't gonna cut it, bunky!
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    I dont understand the point. If you dont want restrictions, why move into an HOA? I can understand petitioning it if it is not an HOA and these silly rules are still being applied but...dont people understand what they are getting into before they move in?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KB3LAZ View Post
    I dont understand the point. If you dont want restrictions, why move into an HOA? I can understand petitioning it if it is not an HOA and these silly rules are still being applied but...dont people understand what they are getting into before they move in?
    Of course they do. Generally, I've found these are the same people who bitch about zero services, while lauding low taxes. They want their cake, and to eat it too. They want the benefits of an HOA, but don't want the restrictions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KB3LAZ View Post
    I dont understand the point. If you dont want restrictions, why move into an HOA? I can understand petitioning it if it is not an HOA and these silly rules are still being applied but...dont people understand what they are getting into before they move in?
    In some cases, the person wasn't licensed when they moved into the HOA & didn't realize the restrictions.
    In some cases, the person didn't read the fine print, or it wasn't disclosed.
    In some cases, the restrictions didn't exist or weren't as severe at the time the home was purchased, but were imposed on the homeowners by the HOA after they took possesion. Or the rules weren't being strictly enforced then, but are now. Or the HOA has made the new rules retroactive and won't recognize grandfathering.

    And in most cases, the person didn't think the rules applied to them. Or didn't pay any attention to them in the first place.
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    HOA should be done away with. lets have some real freedom!
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    Quote Originally Posted by W2IBC View Post
    HOA should be done away with. lets have some real freedom!
    You have the freedom to buy an HOA home, or not. What else do you want?
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    Quote Originally Posted by W2IBC View Post
    HOA should be done away with. lets have some real freedom!
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    Quote Originally Posted by W3WN View Post
    In some cases, the person wasn't licensed when they moved into the HOA & didn't realize the restrictions.
    That was my first house. There was an HOA, but antenna restrictions never came up, even when I put up a 5/8 wave 10m vertical and an inverted vee. There were many TV antennas scattered around the neighborhood, so I figured if there were any restrictions, they weren't being enforced. Nobody ever came to the door telling me I had to take any of it down.

    In some cases, the person didn't read the fine print, or it wasn't disclosed.
    Caveat Emptor. It's no one's fault but your own for not doing proper research. Maybe next time, you'll pay attention.

    In some cases, the restrictions didn't exist or weren't as severe at the time the home was purchased, but were imposed on the homeowners by the HOA after they took possesion. Or the rules weren't being strictly enforced then, but are now. Or the HOA has made the new rules retroactive and won't recognize grandfathering.
    There might be grounds for taking that to court, but IANAL.

    And in most cases, the person didn't think the rules applied to them. Or didn't pay any attention to them in the first place.
    This is the most likely, IMHO.
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