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    My Great Great Great Grandparents

    Many people have been meaning to ask about my avatar. Yeah.

    It is my great great great grandparents, Davy and Lydia Shirar. They were the first "Shirar's" in the US as far as I know. Davy's grandfather moved to the US from Nazi Germany in 1730 with the name "Scheurer". When they moved to Philly, the people at the courthouse wanted a name that was a little more American so they changed it to "Shirer". Davy's dad, Valentine, moved his brood to Muskingum County, Ohio. Well, things being the way they were, the family apparently fought a lot and Davy grew up, married and moved to Carroll County, Indiana. Changed his name and everything.

    That's where these two lived and died.

    Well, Davy and Lydia are buried right there in the center of the Flora, IN cemetery. Some of their kids moved on to Kansas and that's where I came in and moved back east. But there were 6 generations of Shirar's in Kansas after that time.

    Anyone else do any lineage stuff? Find out where you are descended from?

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    My dad's side came over in the early '20s - they spent several years in France after getting the hell out of the Ottoman Empire before the Turks came to town. Turns out they picked a good time to leave: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Van

    I know nothing of their pre-Genocide history, would be cool to know.
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    You'll catch some flak for "Nazi Germany in 1730" but I think I get the picture.

    Cool stuff, and I've dabbled in this, mostly on my Dad's side of the family. Have some info going back to the 1600's. I think I've done all the "easy" research now and am waiting for more time to hopefully get into it more. I have a portrait of my G-Grandmother that looks a lot like your G-G-G. Will have to post that when I get back to the archives. Some German blood here, but mostly Dutch -- family came over in the Dutch migration of the mid-1800's and settled mostly in the Buffalo, NY area (Clymer, to be precise).

    It's fun to look into this stuff, and it's never been easier.

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    I lost track of the family tree in 1400 in Friesland the province where both parents come from, before that time there were no church books or written accounts of the family to be found.
    My wife comes from the Bergerac French family, and her side fled to the Netherlands when the Hugenots were chased and killed in France.
    They renamed themselves to Berserik, and lived in the Hague where i was born as well, my dad and mum lived there because he got a job as policeman there after the war.
    It can take lots of time to sort out that stuff, internet made it a bit less problematic because all registers were scanned and put up on the net of most townhall's.
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    My Dad has been a big genealogy buff since the 60's. I can't count how many cemeteries I've been to all over CA and the US and all the aging relatives he interviewed.
    As a kid, it was boring, but reading the results of the research is interesting now.

    My family has been in CA since 1845 on my Dad's side. My mother was born in Nebraska and even though she's been in CA since 1942, you can still hear the Midwest in her voice. (Mon-DEE instead of Monday or "Warsh" instead of Wash).

    I have reams of this stuff I haven't even looked at yet. Maybe some day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nx6d View Post
    My Dad has been a big genealogy buff since the 60's. I can't count how many cemeteries I've been to all over CA and the US and all the aging relatives he interviewed.
    As a kid, it was boring, but reading the results of the research is interesting now.

    My family has been in CA since 1845 on my Dad's side. My mother was born in Nebraska and even though she's been in CA since 1942, you can still hear the Midwest in her voice. (Mon-DEE instead of Monday or "Warsh" instead of Wash).

    I have reams of this stuff I haven't even looked at yet. Maybe some day.
    I have worked hard to remove "warsh" and stuff like that from the plains states dialect. One of my distant relatives lived in Grass Vally near you. Her name was Ara Shirar Sanders. She was a massive genealogy buff. A lot of my info came from her.

    I made a lineage dealie for my grand daughter in case she wants to join the DAR when she turns 18 in 14 years.

    GAUMER, JACOB

    Ancestor #: A043676

    Service:

    PENNSYLVANIA Rank: PRIVATE

    Birth:

    (BAPTISED) 7-30-1756 MACUNGIE TWP NORTHAMPTON CO PENNSYLVANIA

    Death:

    1820 MUSKINGUM CO OHIO

    Service Source:

    PA ARCH VOL 8 SER 5 P 60

    Service Description:

    1) CAPTS GEORGE KNAPINGBERGER & GRIENLMYER
    2) NORTHAMPTON CO,MILITIA

    Son

    Daniel B. Gaumer b. 10 Apr 1781, d. 10 Sep 1858 or 10 Sep 1859

    Daughter

    Lydia Gaumer (Shirar) b. 24 Jan 1803, d. 28 Jul 1872

    Son

    Levi Shirar b. 25 May 1823, d. 21 Aug 1891

    Son

    James Riley Shirar b. 13 Dec 1851, d. 6 Dec 1924

    Son

    Charles Levi Shirar b. 31 Dec 1878, d. 15 Oct 1969

    Son

    James Lester Shirar b. 25 Jan 1912, d. 14 Jan 2003

    Son

    N9XR Jerry Lester Shirar b. 18 Nov 1957

    Son

    Joshua Ryan Shirar b. 1 Jul 1981

    Daughter

    Valerie Skye Shirar b. 24 Jul 2008

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    I can trace one side of my mother's lineage back to the Mayflower. The Injun side is a bit harder, and my father's kin was Swiss. I'm a damn mutt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by X-Rated View Post
    Many people have been meaning to ask about my avatar. Yeah.

    It is my great great great grandparents, Davy and Lydia Shirar. They were the first "Shirar's" in the US as far as I know. Davy's grandfather moved to the US from Nazi Germany in 1730 with the name "Scheurer". When they moved to Philly, the people at the courthouse wanted a name that was a little more American so they changed it to "Shirer". Davy's dad, Valentine, moved his brood to Muskingum County, Ohio. Well, things being the way they were, the family apparently fought a lot and Davy grew up, married and moved to Carroll County, Indiana. Changed his name and everything.

    That's where these two lived and died.

    Well, Davy and Lydia are buried right there in the center of the Flora, IN cemetery. Some of their kids moved on to Kansas and that's where I came in and moved back east. But there were 6 generations of Shirar's in Kansas after that time.

    Anyone else do any lineage stuff? Find out where you are descended from?
    Any chance you are related to the Astronaut Wally Schirra? I know its not the same spelling, but names do get changed over the years and he was from the same Jersey/Philadelphia area. It's pretty close.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KK4AMI View Post
    Any chance you are related to the Astronaut Wally Schirra? I know its not the same spelling, but names do get changed over the years and he was from the same Jersey/Philadelphia area. It's pretty close.
    I believe the "Shirra's" are Brit. There are authentic "Shirer's" who are Brit as well. We are not related to any of those of Brit origin. My Grandfather did marry a Brit, but her name was Alice Cooper. She really rocked.

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