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    Quote Originally Posted by n2ize View Post
    Stafford also has a fraction of the population of this general area (excluding NYC) and also probably a fraction of the expenses.
    Stafford has more people than my town.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KC2UGV View Post
    In Texas, you one of the following (Generally, of course there are exceptions): A soldier, a worker at Walmart, or a wealthy rancher.
    We are talking about retirees. I don't expect working people to want to move to a place with no jobs or services.

    Retirees don't need much in the way of services. Roads, basic infrastructure, access to healthcare. Many probably don't need low income healthcare (if they are over 65 they get access to medicare). They don't need top schools or any of that stuff. They need mostly a place where they can stretch their limited retirement dollars.
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    Quote Originally Posted by N2RJ View Post
    We are talking about retirees. I don't expect working people to want to move to a place with no jobs or services.
    Retirees need workers, to perform services lol

    Retirees don't need much in the way of services. Roads, basic infrastructure, access to healthcare.
    And, in all 3, Texas is lacking.

    Many probably don't need low income healthcare (if they are over 65 they get access to medicare). They don't need top schools or any of that stuff. They need mostly a place where they can stretch their limited retirement dollars.
    And, in Texas, that ain't the place. My electric bill during the warmer half of the year never dropped under $150. Oft times it was $300.

    Medicare? Good luck finding a provider who takes Medicare in Texas. Last I checked, it's only accepted at the county hospitals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KC2UGV View Post
    Retirees need workers, to perform services lol



    And, in all 3, Texas is lacking.



    And, in Texas, that ain't the place. My electric bill during the warmer half of the year never dropped under $150. Oft times it was $300.

    Medicare? Good luck finding a provider who takes Medicare in Texas. Last I checked, it's only accepted at the county hospitals.
    My electric bill in PA was rather high. 300$ was a cheap month.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KC2UGV View Post
    Retirees need workers, to perform services lol



    And, in all 3, Texas is lacking.



    And, in Texas, that ain't the place. My electric bill during the warmer half of the year never dropped under $150. Oft times it was $300.

    Medicare? Good luck finding a provider who takes Medicare in Texas. Last I checked, it's only accepted at the county hospitals.

    Finding a Medicare provider is difficult in a lot of places, because quite frankly it doesn't pay much (thank you Government).

    People available in Texas to do work... you mean like fixing up your house etc? LOL, yup there's definitely a shortage of that in Texas. (not)

    Texas is #31 (lowest to highest) nationwide for electric rates. NY is like the 3rd highest after CT and HI. http://www.neo.ne.gov/statshtml/204.htm

    The good thing about Texas is that you don't have to buy heating oil or pay for other fossil fuel (nat gas, propane).

    Let's face it, Texas is faaaar better as a retirement destination than New York. The only people I really hear that retire to NY are people who have lived there forever or who live downstate who don't want to move far from the city they love.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KB3LAZ View Post
    My electric bill in PA was rather high. 300$ was a cheap month.
    One of my friends pays like $500/month in New Jersey. In my old apt I was paying $170/month electric year round for a crappy 1000 sq ft apt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by N2RJ View Post
    One of my friends pays like $500/month in New Jersey. In my old apt I was paying $170/month electric year round for a crappy 1000 sq ft apt.
    Oh, I know. In the summer with AC it was $500-$575 a month. In Spain it is 75€ a month. This is not the biggest place but not small either. 3 bedroom, 2 full bath, attached living and dining room, with a separate kitchen. There is also a dedicated washroom for clothing that has an enclosed balcony for hang drying as well as an full balcony at the back of the place overlooking the courtyard. In reality this place is not a lot smaller than my main home in the US and yet the utilities are so much cheaper. Though, here we do pay for water on a different bill but that is cheap enough that it is not really worth mentioning.

    Idk what the norm is but when I lived in OH my electric bill for a 4 bedroom house was $120 a month and there were five of us living there. Lol. Hell of a lot different than PA.

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    Now in the house, electric is really nothing because we don't use AC much during the summer (we have shade and it is cool). Our electric bill is on average $120/mo and about $160/mo during summer. We run it at 75 degrees and it's on a timer.

    Winter time though gets pretty damn expensive. If we use propane it can be upwards of $6000 per season to heat the house. We use firewood and an EPA certified wood burner so that cost is cut down some (but firewood is a LOT of work!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by N2RJ View Post
    Finding a Medicare provider is difficult in a lot of places, because quite frankly it doesn't pay much (thank you Government).
    It's not difficult here in WNY. And, every provider I've done consulting for loves both Medicare and Medicaid. They are both the least hassle, and both use the same data transmission systems, so every practice management system can talk to both, out of the box.

    People available in Texas to do work... you mean like fixing up your house etc? LOL, yup there's definitely a shortage of that in Texas. (not)
    No, there isn't a "shortage" of unskilled labor. It's just all you've got there.

    Texas is #31 (lowest to highest) nationwide for electric rates. NY is like the 3rd highest after CT and HI. http://www.neo.ne.gov/statshtml/204.htm
    And, you use a hell of a lot more to cool your home. My combined electric/gas bill here monthly is $150.

    The good thing about Texas is that you don't have to buy heating oil or pay for other fossil fuel (nat gas, propane).
    No, you just use electricity for all that, which is very inefficient.

    Let's face it, Texas is faaaar better as a retirement destination than New York. The only people I really hear that retire to NY are people who have lived there forever or who live downstate who don't want to move far from the city they love.
    I lived in Texas for 6 years. I would never retire there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KC2UGV View Post
    No, there isn't a "shortage" of unskilled labor. It's just all you've got there.
    Must be why Texas A&M, the DFW metroplex and all of those places are full of nothing.

    Incidentally, we lost AT&T in this state to Texas too. A lot of businesses are moving and have moved there.

    And, you use a hell of a lot more to cool your home. My combined electric/gas bill here monthly is $150.
    Pretty easy when you live in the house the size of a shoe box, near to natural gas too (in a city most likely).

    No, you just use electricity for all that, which is very inefficient.
    Electrically powered heat pumps are more efficient than most other heating methods.

    I lived in Texas for 6 years. I would never retire there.
    Texas is a big place.

    But we get it. You don't like texas. People freely carry their guns around there, and you don't like guns, and about the only liberal place really is Austin.
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