Gas mileage of ethanol-added gasoline?

[KG4CGC]

Speaking of gas, the gas here in Spain smells different. Almost like acetone. No clue why. Im not a chemist. I assume that smell is alcohol.

Follow your nose. It is more likely a distillate of petroleum than it is alcohol. Then again, I don't know what they do over there. They could be adding a contaminant to the alcohol before it is mixed so people don't try to drink it.
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[KB3LAZ]

Follow your nose. It is more likely a distillate of petroleum than it is alcohol. Then again, I don't know what they do over there. They could be adding a contaminant to the alcohol before it is mixed so people don't try to drink it.
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No idea but the shit is rather powerful. It burns the hell out of my nose just to go the gas station. There are more than a few biodiesel stations here locally too. Its a shit ton cheaper too. 80 cents give or take per liter where as gas is 1.40€ per liter. Diesel is even more.

[PA5COR]

My van runs on Diesel, but also on sunflower oil, Older design 2.5 Turbo diesel with prechamber and plunger fuel pump LOL.
Always funny in France to "tank" 5 or 6 5 liter bottles of sunflower oil, and top up with a gallon diesel...;) the looks on the faces of the french peeps are hilarious...

[KG4CGC]

Did Kawasaki ever put that diesel bike into full production?

[KB3LAZ]

Did Kawasaki ever put that diesel bike into full production?

Im not sure.

[N1LAF]

Gas mileage does increase with non-ethanol gasoline.

Here is the crazy part, You have to consume more ethanol based gasoline than non-gasoline to go the same distance. Ethanol based gasoline produces more CO2 for the same distance as non-ethanol based gasoline. Ethanol based gasoline releases more CO2 to the environment than non-ethanol gasoline? Where are the AGW alarmists?

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burning ethanol actually produces 54% more CO2 as global warming pollutant than gasoline due to the fact that ethanol has lower fuel efficiency.
http://www.intota.com/docs/ethanol-pollution.asp

[KG4CGC]

Gas mileage does increase with non-ethanol gasoline.

Here is the crazy part, You have to consume more ethanol based gasoline than non-gasoline to go the same distance. Ethanol based gasoline produces more CO2 for the same distance as non-ethanol based gasoline. Ethanol based gasoline releases more CO2 to the environment than non-ethanol gasoline? Where are the AGW alarmists?

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burning ethanol actually produces 54% more CO2 as global warming pollutant than gasoline due to the fact that ethanol has lower fuel efficiency.
http://www.intota.com/docs/ethanol-pollution.asp

BUT, and this is a big but, the CO2 from the ethanol part is carbon neutral.

[N1LAF]

BUT, and this is a big but, the CO2 from the ethanol part is carbon neutral.

Octane (n-dodecane): C12H26 + 18.5 O2 → 12 CO2 + 13 H2O 18.5 x energy units

Ethanol: 2 C6H12O6 + 12 O2 → 12 CO2 + 12 H2O 12.0 x energy units

Because of the reduced mileage, you have to consume more fuel to go the same distance, which results in more CO2 release.

[KG4CGC]

Octane (n-dodecane): C12H26 + 18.5 O2 → 12 CO2 + 13 H2O 18.5 x energy units

Ethanol: 2 C6H12O6 + 12 O2 → 12 CO2 + 12 H2O 12.0 x energy units

Because of the reduced mileage, you have to consume more fuel to go the same distance, which results in more CO2 release.

BUT the ethanol part is STILL carbon neutral.

[N1LAF]

BUT the ethanol part is STILL carbon neutral.

For example, to drive from point A to point B takes 18.5 energy units, creating 12 CO2 units, for non-ethanol gasoline

For ethanol fuel, you need 18.5 energy units, so 18.5/12.5 = 1.48 * 12CO2 = 17.8 CO2 units released to go from point A to point B

Ethanol fuel releases more CO2 than straight gasoline