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[N2RJ]

What's wrong with that? That's part of the pay package. THEY EARNED IT.

I'm yet to see this perk for any private sector job. Most jobs are "use it or lose it."

If I'm footin' the bill, I don't want this perk for state employees. We elected the Governor to act on our behalf, and he has.

Makes for good rhetoric from the podium but is there proof of egregious abuse? And of that abuse, who was it?

There's lots of proof of abuse, and bear in mind that some of it is completely legal. Christie worked to remove the legal part.

Even IF an employee came to work every day and didn't take vacation or sick time (super human state employees?) I would hate to think that the state was stressing people out like that. You're given vacation days to take a break from a stressful job. Sick days are for when you're sick. They're not to be banked and cashed out as a a golden parachute.

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I'm yet to see this perk for any private sector job. Most jobs are "use it or lose it."

If I'm footin' the bill, I don't want this perk for state employees. We elected the Governor to act on our behalf, and he has.




There's lots of proof of abuse, and bear in mind that some of it is completely legal. Christie worked to remove the legal part.

Even IF an employee came to work every day and didn't take vacation or sick time (super human state employees?) I would hate to think that the state was stressing people out like that. You're given vacation days to take a break from a stressful job. Sick days are for when you're sick. They're not to be banked and cashed out as a a golden parachute.

Private sector jobs were not always like that. The shift towards rightwing policies over the last 3 decades made so.
As for proof of abuse, if it was legal at the time, was it them abuse or simply taking advantage of the system in place, much like what businesses do today to squeeze as much profit as possible from each employee, whether it is morally correct or not?

[N2RJ]

Private sector jobs were not always like that. The shift towards rightwing policies over the last 3 decades made so.
As for proof of abuse, if it was legal at the time, was it them abuse or simply taking advantage of the system in place, much like what businesses do today to squeeze as much profit as possible from each employee, whether it is morally correct or not.

Most of the changes are in effect for new hires.

With regard to the benefits and pay, it also wasn't always that way. Under previous administrations they sweetened the deal as much as they could get away with.

I don't really mind the payout of unused vacation days. Sick days? Use it or lose it. Also, pay them out at the rate at which they were earned. 100% fine with that.

[kf0rt]

Private sector jobs were not always like that. The shift towards rightwing policies over the last 3 decades made so.

Truth, though I'm not sure if this is due to rightwing policies.

Untill 11 years ago, I had no cap on vacation or personal time. They'd even buy back any personal time over 80 hours once a year. I had about 1,000 hours on the books. Then a rule was made (just for us "abusers") that said we had to burn one more week than we got each year. Get 4, you have to take 5. This lasted until 3 years ago when they capped everything to 240 hours vacation and pure use/lose on personal. Everyone in excess was paid out the difference. Then this year, they moved the cap to 200 hours. At 200 hours, you stop accumulating. Haven't lost any money over the deal, and it was fun taking 5 weeks off for a few years.

This has all been a pushed policy from the Corporate folks. They're in Europe.

Part of the problem is that companies don't escrow this, so it can really screw them if someone leaves with a lot of hours on the books or if they're facing a layoff situation (I've seen it).

Public sector -- I have no problem with capping vacation there either, provided the employees are given a fair chance at actually taking the time off. They really did earn it - if there's abuse, fix THAT.

[N2RJ]

This has all been a pushed policy from the Corporate folks. They're in Europe.

Part of the problem is that companies don't escrow this, so it can really screw them if someone leaves with a lot of hours on the books or if they're facing a layoff situation (I've seen it).

We have a "use it or lose it" and a limited carryover. But the employee handbook says that we really should take our vacation. Nobody I know of loses any vacation time. I get a little over a month each year including floating holidays (which are treated like vacation days) and I use it all.

Vacation is there for a reason - people need to unwind and de-stress.

Public sector -- I have no problem with capping vacation there either, provided the employees are given a fair chance at actually taking the time off. They really did earn it - if there's abuse, fix THAT.

Agreed 100%. Instead of paying large amounts of overtime, hiring should be streamlined so there's enough staff.

[kf0rt]

Vacation is there for a reason - people need to unwind and de-stress.

True, and that's policy here too. Problem is, I'm usually rewound and restressed by 8 AM on the day back.