I gave away my Dell Laptop today.....

[KG4CGC]

I don't know about that. It may depend on the location, too, as some states have different rules regarding how they distribute welfare funding.

I think the real issue, though, is simply this: No matter how lofty and noble the proposed laws are, and no matter how lofty and noble (and constructive) the goals are... the actual rules and procedures are written not by the law makers, but by the bureaucrats that run the agencies. Too many of these rules are written to actually serve THEIR needs -- to keep their jobs, to keep their control & power(such as it is), and to make their lives easier.

So, for example, a desired outcome of a rule might be that no one with significant assets should receive public assistance... as they clearly have the means to support themselves. Sounds like a good idea, right? But -- where do you draw the line? What is "significant" in this situation... a house? a car? a savings account with $50,000 in it? $5000? $50?

Better & easier -- for the bureaucrats -- to frame the appropriate regulations to just prohibit a savings account, period. Besides, if you're saving money, then The Government must be paying you too much, right?

It just takes a few rules based on fractured logic like this to set up a system that is designed to keep people in, instead of giving them the means to find a way out.

This sounds logical but I what the information that will specifically put the blame right square on the Republicans.

[KB3LAZ]

Yes, the system is backwards. It as you said hinders people from getting out of the rut and encourages them to stay on the system, so to speak. Once people do get a job their money is held against them in many housing developments and their rent will skyrocket all at once rather than slowing increasing. Again, as you said, people can not save up to get out either as their funds are held against them.

At this point people ask themselves if they should stay on the system, have a roof over their head and food to eat or should they get a job and live in their car if they have one.

Again, I have always thought the system was fucked up. And yes, I do think there are many people that do take advantage of it but in the end it is the people that really need the help that get screwed over.

[W3WN]

Steve, full credit & kudos for you for trying to do the right thing.

Sad to say, 3 will get you 2 that the laptop is gone or destroyed within a week. I've seen things like that happen before.

[WØTKX]

This is why those "cash loaded" charge cards are so popular. And the poor that need to use them? Yea, they pay a fee.

Poor people pay more in a lot of cases. But, it's OK, it's their fault. Rental furniture and TV's, anyone?

[KB3LAZ]

This is why those "cash loaded" charge cards are so popular. And the poor that need to use them? Yea, they pay a fee.

Poor people pay more in a lot of cases. But, it's OK, it's their fault. Rental furniture and TV's, anyone?

Fuck those pre-paid cards. It cost to put money on them, not everywhere takes them, they take money off of you by the month..Yes, I know, if you dont have any other option..

Though, I do have to give some of those rental places credit. My brother who is working his way out of a whole uses Arrons. Yes, they are expensive long term but they have worked with my brother in ways that I would have never expected. Removing entire months payments so that he could catch up, lowering the bill, changing the term, etc. (Not the point and I know that but it just popped into my head.)

[kb2crk]

Steve
Kudos to you for doing something nice.
As for the welfare system, it is screwed up. It is set up to keep one on the roles and if you try to better yourself you find yourself screwed.
If you do manage to get off of it you have to watch your back as an investigation may follow and then they decide you got too much while you were on it and you have to pay a good deal back.
I know this first hand.

[W1GUH]

You look very nice in your Angel Wings, Steve. Here's to a bright future for the girl you've so generously helped.

FYI, aftermarket laptop PS's are available from Rocketfish...but they're pricey.

[KA9MOT]

You look very nice in your Angel Wings, Steve. Here's to a bright future for the girl you've so generously helped.

FYI, aftermarket laptop PS's are available from Rocketfish...but they're pricey.

Paul, if you knew me you'd know there is nothing angelic about me. :rofl:

[KA9MOT]

You look very nice in your Angel Wings, Steve. Here's to a bright future for the girl you've so generously helped.

FYI, aftermarket laptop PS's are available from Rocketfish...but they're pricey.

Less than $10 on eBay, but then.........it's eBay and we really don't know what we're getting.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-PA-12-AC...ht_2064wt_1396

[kb2crk]

Less than $10 on eBay, but then.........it's eBay and we really don't know what we're getting.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-PA-12-AC...ht_2064wt_1396

I have one of those that I had picked up for my one daughters inspiron 1501. she killed that computer (hence the parts i have laying around) and I gave her a dell latitude c840 which she also killed.
I did not replace that one....lol. I have kept the charger around as a back up for my wife's latitude d420. If you need one let me know.