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    Quote Originally Posted by KC2UGV View Post
    If the motor is under 0.5 kW, or 50cc; and if gas powered, wheels smaller than 10"; you do not need to get it tagged, or have a license to operate it.
    No, but in that case it is for off the road use only. My moped is just under 50cc but I guess the wheels are too large. In any event it does me no good because it is buried under a pile of heavy lumber with stale varnished gas in the tank. My Dad is expert at trashing stuff. :(

    However, from what i was told when i was inquiring whether I could ride it NYS DMV said anything with a motor must be registered or else used off road only. can you cite a paragraph in the DMV code that says you can operate a self propelled vehicle with no tags or license if it is below a certain size ? I can't find it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by n2ize View Post
    No, but in that case it is for off the road use only. My moped is just under 50cc but I guess the wheels are too large. In any event it does me no good because it is buried under a pile of heavy lumber with stale varnished gas in the tank. My Dad is expert at trashing stuff. :(

    However, from what i was told when i was inquiring whether I could ride it NYS DMV said anything with a motor must be registered or else used off road only. can you cite a paragraph in the DMV code that says you can operate a self propelled vehicle with no tags or license if it is below a certain size ? I can't find it.
    Can you cite anything in the DMV code that states it's for off-road use only?

    How about bicycles? Do they have to be tagged?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KC2UGV View Post
    Can you cite anything in the DMV code that states it's for off-road use only?

    How about bicycles? Do they have to be tagged?
    No not bicycles because they don;t have a gas or electrically driven motor. When I called DMV to inquire about using my moped I was told that any motorized vehicle MUST be approved for use on public roads and must be registered and tagged for use on public roads and the operator must possess a drivers license. Other vehicles that don;t require a registration or license are for off public road use only. This is what I was told in my conversation with NYS DMV in 2001. Now, maybe they have changed it since then. But at the time I was interested that is what they told me.

    The ONLY thing that was not mandated for mopeds or small motor vehicles (50 cc or less) was insurance. They recommend insurance but do not require.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KC2UGV View Post
    Can you cite anything in the DMV code that states it's for off-road use only?

    How about bicycles? Do they have to be tagged?
    http://www.dmv.ny.gov/recreation.htm#mopeds

    Motorized Scooters, Mini-Bikes, Dirt Bikes, Go-Karts, Motor Assisted Bicycles

    You cannot register any of the motorized devices from the list below in NYS. You cannot operate these devices on sidewalks, public streets or highways in NYS. These devices are motor vehicles, but they do not have the correct equipment or design for operation on roadways.

    Motorized Scooter - a device with a motor attached and a handlebar for a standing rider. An example of a motorized scooter is the device called the Go-ped®.
    Mini-bike - a small, motorized device with two wheels and created for off-road use. A mini-bike does not qualify as a moped, a motorcycle or an ATV.
    Dirt Bike - a motorized device like a motorcycle, but created for and used for off-road use. Some "dirt bikes" qualify as an ATV. These vehicles can register and operate off-road as an ATV.
    Go-Kart - a small, motorized device with four wheels, created for off-road use. You cannot register a go-kart as a motor vehicle or ATV because a go-kart does not have the same equipment.
    Motor-assisted Bicycle - a bicycle to which a small motor is attached. A motor-assisted bicycle does not qualify for a registration as a motorcycle, moped or ATV and does not have the same equipment.
    These devices are not allowed on any street, highway, parking lot, sidewalk or other area that allows public motor vehicle traffic. You are subject to arrest if you operate one of these motorized vehicles and do not have a registration, driver license, inspection, insurance or correct equipment. The DMV can not provide any information about operation of these devices on private property. Contact the local authorities and property owners.
    On a side note, a lot of neighborhood kids ignore the law anyway and drive these god damned things up and down the street with their loud lawnmower like engines, all hours of the night. This was when I lived in Queens.

    One of the reasons I'm glad I moved out to the country. Couldn't take that shit anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by N2RJ View Post
    http://www.dmv.ny.gov/recreation.htm#mopeds



    On a side note, a lot of neighborhood kids ignore the law anyway and drive these god damned things up and down the street with their loud lawnmower like engines, all hours of the night. This was when I lived in Queens.

    One of the reasons I'm glad I moved out to the country. Couldn't take that shit anymore.
    So the law is pretty much exactly as I stated. In order to qualify for registration for public road use the vehicle must be of a type that complies with certain criteria. A valid license is required for operation ALL motor vehicles that are approved for road use and are registered. And there is no criteria in nanny NYS which permits motor vehicles smaller than a certain size to be operated without license or registration. I didn't think there was any such criteria.

    The way it works is like this. If I so much as put even a tiny model airplane engine on a bicycle to propel it at 1 mph at that point it is considered a motorized vehicle and is illegal to operate on public roadways. it doesn't matter how small the vehicle or the motor is. Once you stick on even a small motor on a tiny vehicle it is "off road ONLY" and a crime to operate on public roads.

    There are some states that permit you to operate a moped, or a scooter 9gas or electric) without a license or registration provided yoou follow certain simple traffic rules. Unfortunately New York is not one of those states.

    Sorry Corey, your outta luck. Buy a motorcycle or moped that can be legally registered or, move to another state that has easier going DMV laws. NYS is one of the toughest motor vehicle states in the nation.
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