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    Quote Originally Posted by n2ize View Post
    How can anyone prepare for the end of the world ?
    By sleeping in a coffin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by n2ize View Post
    It is going to take real men to send their wives children tosafer ground while we able bodied men stay behind and devote our time, energy, and pain and suffering to rebuild our cities, our towns, villages, infrastructure, economy, etc. Some of us may die in the process. Some of us may suffer, But many of us will survive. Regardless of which category we fall into we will all be playing an invaluable role by staying behind where we are most needed rather than taking to the hills.

    Matter of fact, many of those who take to the hills will find that its not as easy as they thought. During WW2 many Europeans discovered this when they tried to leave their cities and towns for the countryside. Many of them wound up returning.

    It's going to take guts, hard work, determination, and pain, but we can do it.
    Wow, only men can do this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by suddenseer View Post
    Wow, only men can do this?
    No, they would be doing their part as well. But their duties and responsibilities would be more of a maternal nature, i.e. taking care of children, nursing of the young, the sick, the injured. The repairs to the infrastructure and/or whatever is needed to get our cities back up and running again. A time of crisis is not a time to worry about gender equality. Everybody is going to have to pitch in in their own way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by n2ize View Post
    It is going to take real men to send their wives children tosafer ground while we able bodied men stay behind and devote our time, energy, and pain and suffering to rebuild our cities, our towns, villages, infrastructure, economy, etc. Some of us may die in the process. Some of us may suffer, But many of us will survive. Regardless of which category we fall into we will all be playing an invaluable role by staying behind where we are most needed rather than taking to the hills.

    Matter of fact, many of those who take to the hills will find that its not as easy as they thought. During WW2 many Europeans discovered this when they tried to leave their cities and towns for the countryside. Many of them wound up returning.

    It's going to take guts, hard work, determination, and pain, but we can do it.

    And history taught the world how well that worked out for millions of people who were rounded up, in their cities, and met a horrible end. If life in this country, or world, became so dire from some kind of collapse or other calamity, I'm not certain what I would do. I would think there would be signs of such an events approach, and I would evaluate my options at that time. Priorities, circumstances, and needs tend to change over time. Besides, I don't have time to obsess over something that very well may never happen, at least in the time I have left. I'd rather spend that time trying to get my fucking tomatoes to grow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by K7SGJ View Post
    And history taught the world how well that worked out for millions of people who were rounded up, in their cities, and met a horrible end. If life in this country, or world, became so dire from some kind of collapse or other calamity, I'm not certain what I would do. I would think there would be signs of such an events approach, and I would evaluate my options at that time. Priorities, circumstances, and needs tend to change over time. Besides, I don't have time to obsess over something that very well may never happen, at least in the time I have left. I'd rather spend that time trying to get my fucking tomatoes to grow.
    Many of those in Europe who tried to take to the hills found out that it was a fruitless effort. Consider trying to take to the hills here in modern day USA. First of all many of the roadways would be impassible. Public transportation, trains, planes, etc would be needed to deal with emergencies. In short, unless you live in a very sparsely populated area, taking to the hills by car or public transport will likely be impossible. And it is not an easy task to "take to the hills" on foot unless you are conditioned for hours upon hours of daily, strenuous hiking under some of the roughest conditions (i.e. hiking many many miles through heavy deep snow, floods, vast areas of mud that impede movement, crossing rivers, dealing with inclement weather, etc. assuming you don't get injured along the way, not to mention dealing with others who have decided to take to the hills. Then there are the sick, the infirm, the elderly, the very young, people with medical and various health issues who could not take to the hills even if it were possible. Their only chance of survival will be to stay in their cities and, they will need as many able bodied people to help them to survive, to get them the food, medicines and medical care they need to have a chance to survive.

    And, to make matters worst, if the crisis were a major war our enemies would like nothing more than for us to abandon our cities and to give up on our society.
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    Quote Originally Posted by n2ize View Post
    But your missing the point. Of course if you abandon our cities and "take to the hills" there will be no more "great land". That's why we need to stick to our cities and towns. Besides, the cities and the towns will be the most likely places for survival and the materials to build upon. Sure, it's hard, and at times it may seem hopeless . That is why it takes guts to stay in your city, town, village, hamlet, etc. rather than taking to the hills. I may not be a superman but I have the guts. If, God forbid, that day ever comes I am staying right here in my city.
    Staying in an urban area is unsustainable. There are not enough resources in an urban environment to keep you alive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by K7SGJ View Post
    And history taught the world how well that worked out for millions of people who were rounded up, in their cities, and met a horrible end. If life in this country, or world, became so dire from some kind of collapse or other calamity, I'm not certain what I would do. I would think there would be signs of such an events approach, and I would evaluate my options at that time. Priorities, circumstances, and needs tend to change over time. Besides, I don't have time to obsess over something that very well may never happen, at least in the time I have left. I'd rather spend that time trying to get my fucking tomatoes to grow.
    And getting you tomatoes to grow where you are now is probably one of the best things to do in order to plan :) Once you get the hang of getting food to grow, you don't need to worry about where you'll end up: You have a skill in farming, albeit minimal, but better than nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KC2UGV View Post
    Staying in an urban area is unsustainable. There are not enough resources in an urban environment to keep you alive.
    Taking to the hills isn't going to work either. Staying in your city is the best course of action. And the most patriotic, if not to your country to your fellow citizens. Mnatter of fact I consider taking to the hills (particularly in a war situation) to be pretty close to treason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by n2ize View Post
    Taking to the hills isn't going to work either. Staying in your city is the best course of action. And the most patriotic, if not to your country to your fellow citizens. Mnatter of fact I consider taking to the hills (particularly in a war situation) to be pretty close to treason.
    Well, you worry about patriotism in the face of a collapse of society. I'll worry about living.
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