this is driving me nuts, so now i cant sleep

[KJ3N]

Just be careful though, at higher frequencies the nulls get pretty sharp. My last inverted vee cut for 80m had a deep null towards Europe on 20m. Therefore it was a terrible DX and contest antenna for me.

My current vee is on the ground, The snow of October took it away.

Must have something to do with how it was oriented. My 134 foot long dipole works fantastic into Europe on 20m. It runs almost dead on N/S. I have a deep null into the West Coast, so I use the 40m loop for that.

[N2RJ]

Must have something to do with how it was oriented. My 134 foot long dipole works fantastic into Europe on 20m. It runs almost dead on N/S. I have a deep null into the West Coast, so I use the 40m loop for that.

Yep, that was the problem. But I had no choice since the only supports I could use were in certain directions.

Now it's a moot point since I have a tower, beam and other antenna supports to play with.