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    Why does it work on a bread board, but not a proto-board?

    Ok, so this weekend, I spent the better part of working on a project that should have taken like 30 minutes.

    It's a simple soundcard interface. Works fine on a breadboard, but when transferred to a protoboard, the rig stays keyed no matter what?

    Basically, the DTR is connected to the base of a NPN transistor, with the collector wired to ground, and emitter wired to the PTT pin. Works FB on the breadboard, but when moved to a protoboard, and soldered, it keeps the rig keyed.

    I've flipped the E-C connections around, same thing?

    My serial port is -12V low, and 10V high. Any thoughts?
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    Did the transistor short out after installation or testing?

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    Good advice. I pulled apart one of the last interfaces I built, and it appears I placed a blocking diode from ground to collector (As well as ground to most of the connections)...

    Seem there was a reason for it... hehe. I've got to start a notebook on this stuff. My memories aren't what they used to be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KC2UGV View Post
    Why does it work on a bread board, but not a proto-board?
    Because boards do not work on bread alone?
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    One thing to keep in mind regarding breadboards, especially at radio frequencies:

    Inter-terminal capacitances - them'll git ya.

    Effective capacitance between sections of the boards I've used has been on the order of 10-15pF. Trivial at audio frequencies; most assuredly not at, say, 20MHz and up.
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