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    Negative Feedback

    I just got accused of being a nasty person. Oh well.

    The message I got reads as follows:
    Quote Originally Posted by the seller
    BOY YOUR A NASTY PERSON.
    YOU DID NOT EVEN GIVE ME A CHANCE TO CORRECT THE PROBLEM.
    I DON'T SEE HOW THE BOX WAS DAMAGED AND I SENT OUT 5 OTHERS AND NO PROBLEMS.THE UNIT WAS WELL PACKED AND SHOULD HAVE ARRIVED JUST FINE.
    HOW ELSE COULD YOU SHIP FOR ONLY 5.OO
    WELL IT WAS NOT NICE LEAVE NEGATIVE FEEDBACK WITHOUT CONTACTING ME
    Bad grammar and shouts a lot too, doesn't he.

    Now, here's the backstory...

    A couple of days ago, there was a post on the Ameco AC-1 reflector about a small quantity of vintage Ameco Multi-Meters that were being offered for sale on eBay. So I went & looked. $10 each + $5 S/H. Reasonable, and a nice little item to go alongside my AC-1, so what the heck, I went ahead and ordered one.

    It came on Friday. Placed inside a USPS priority mail envelope -- not a box, a letter envelope. No packing material of any kind; no newspaper, shredded paper, bubble wrap, nothing. And as might be expected, the envelope had been crushed under unknown weight, so the meter box itself was also crushed.

    At least Ameco used bubble wrap & syrofoam to protect the meter. It looks OK. But still...

    So, I left less than positive feedback. What else can I do? Get in a pissing match over a $15 meter because the seller either underestimated the shipping (not my fault) or was careless (ditto)? Not worth the aggravation. What's he going to do to "fix" the problem, anyway... uncrush the box? Give me the shipping back if I remove the feedback? (That's blackmail, and I won't have any parts of it... )

    Oh, I did answer him back and pointed out the lack of proper packaging, and the fact that if he underestimated the cost of shipping, that's not my fault.

    Needless to say, I don't think this gentleman is going to want my business in the future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by w3bny View Post
    You complain too much....No star for you!
    Just for that, come over for a vist. My dog loves chasing bunnehs...
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    It sounds like he did a crappy job of packing, no doubt about it, but did you give him a chance to make good on it before you left feedback?
    All the world’s a stage, but obviously the play is unrehearsed and everybody is ad-libbing his lines. Maybe that’s why it’s hard to tell if we’re living in a tragedy or a farce.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KJ6BSO View Post
    It sounds like he did a crappy job of packing, no doubt about it, but did you give him a chance to make good on it before you left feedback?
    Do what? He only had a few and sold them all, so what could he have done, uncrushed the box?
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    Maybe he could've refunded your money?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NA4BH View Post
    Maybe he could've refunded your money?
    Then I would have been obligated to return the meter. Although I would have properly packed it, I would have still lost on the deal (it would have cost me more to send it back than his charge, in other words).
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    Quote Originally Posted by W3WN View Post
    I just got accused of being a nasty person. Oh well.

    The message I got reads as follows:Bad grammar and shouts a lot too, doesn't he.

    Now, here's the backstory...

    A couple of days ago, there was a post on the Ameco AC-1 reflector about a small quantity of vintage Ameco Multi-Meters that were being offered for sale on eBay. So I went & looked. $10 each + $5 S/H. Reasonable, and a nice little item to go alongside my AC-1, so what the heck, I went ahead and ordered one.

    It came on Friday. Placed inside a USPS priority mail envelope -- not a box, a letter envelope. No packing material of any kind; no newspaper, shredded paper, bubble wrap, nothing. And as might be expected, the envelope had been crushed under unknown weight, so the meter box itself was also crushed.

    At least Ameco used bubble wrap & syrofoam to protect the meter. It looks OK. But still...

    So, I left less than positive feedback. What else can I do? Get in a pissing match over a $15 meter because the seller either underestimated the shipping (not my fault) or was careless (ditto)? Not worth the aggravation. What's he going to do to "fix" the problem, anyway... uncrush the box? Give me the shipping back if I remove the feedback? (That's blackmail, and I won't have any parts of it... )

    Oh, I did answer him back and pointed out the lack of proper packaging, and the fact that if he underestimated the cost of shipping, that's not my fault.

    Needless to say, I don't think this gentleman is going to want my business in the future.
    Sorry to say, but I looked in your dissertation here and did not see where you were purchasing a box. It looked like you were purchasing a meter. "...vintage Ameco Multi-Meters that were being offered for sale on eBay. So I went & looked. $10 each + $5 S/H. Reasonable..." Then you write, "At least Ameco used bubble wrap & syrofoam to protect the meter. It looks OK."

    No foul here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by X-Rated View Post
    Sorry to say, but I looked in your dissertation here and did not see where you were purchasing a box. It looked like you were purchasing a meter. "...vintage Ameco Multi-Meters that were being offered for sale on eBay. So I went & looked. $10 each + $5 S/H. Reasonable..." Then you write, "At least Ameco used bubble wrap & syrofoam to protect the meter. It looks OK."

    No foul here.
    Hmmm. OK, let me clarify:

    The original eBay ad simply listed the item as a "NOS" Ameco multimeter. It was still in the original Ameco box, as packed by them, with instructions and probles. I should have specifically stated that, and not left it implied that the meter purchase included more than just the meter itself.

    To put this in perspective... let's say you were buying, oh, a hand microphone advertised as "new old stock" (if not in those exact terms) unopened. You wouldn't anticipate that you'd open the shipping container to find just a mike, you'd expect to find the mike in the manufacturer's plastic or box or styrofoam or whatever they originally put it in... but you'd just refer to it as a mike, right?

    In any case... the bubble wrap & styrofoam mentioned, to be precise, were wrapped around the meter etc., and the entire set of material was inside the original Ameco cardboard box. THAT box is the one that was placed (with full contents) inside the envelope. Clear now?

    Incidently, I've heard back from the seller, who blames the post office for the package being compressed, but admits that he could have packed it better (besides just putting it in an envelope with no padding, or bubble wrap, or etc.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by W3WN View Post
    Hmmm. OK, let me clarify:

    The original eBay ad simply listed the item as a "NOS" Ameco multimeter. It was still in the original Ameco box, as packed by them, with instructions and probles. I should have specifically stated that, and not left it implied that the meter purchase included more than just the meter itself.

    To put this in perspective... let's say you were buying, oh, a hand microphone advertised as "new old stock" (if not in those exact terms) unopened. You wouldn't anticipate that you'd open the shipping container to find just a mike, you'd expect to find the mike in the manufacturer's plastic or box or styrofoam or whatever they originally put it in... but you'd just refer to it as a mike, right?

    In any case... the bubble wrap & styrofoam mentioned, to be precise, were wrapped around the meter etc., and the entire set of material was inside the original Ameco cardboard box. THAT box is the one that was placed (with full contents) inside the envelope. Clear now?

    Incidently, I've heard back from the seller, who blames the post office for the package being compressed, but admits that he could have packed it better (besides just putting it in an envelope with no padding, or bubble wrap, or etc.)
    Yeah yeah. Nonetheless, buyers need to provide the opportunity to get the seller to make things right. Perhaps he would give you all your money back plus shipping charges and gasoline money to the moon. You won't know now. Plus studious sellers can spot potential buyers who post frivolous negative feedback and can block your future bids. That is what I do.

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