Anyone from Colorado or Maine here?

[N7YA]

My wife and i have a 5 year plan to get the business going and get the living hell out of Vegas forever. We have narrowed it down to a few prereqs...and i mean narrow.

We want a slow and secluded town, low crime, nice people, decent cost of living and scenery, no "small town" nosey neighbors or douchey suburbanites with a false sense of entitlement. I know we can find what we want. We have narrowed it down to CO and ME. The preferable areas are southeastern coastal Maine (i was born there, but only in the farthest northern reaches, my wife lived in the southern part), or the mountains/foothills of Colorado.

We want a liberal minded place that cares about the local enviroment, but no patchouli drenched hippies banging down my door trying to get us to allow a drum circle in our front yard. Also, no ultra apple pie, penis truck driving redneck hell either...just cool folks who will smile and say hi, but basically leave us alone and wont get weird ideas about us when we do the same for them.

Oh yeah, easy on the antenna ordinances too!


Now that i have listed all this crap, does anyone have any suggestions?

[KC2UGV]

Why have you limited yourself to those two states?

I ask, because (This get's old I know), WNY fits the bill for everything you are looking for:

* Liberal-minded place
* You can go from Big City to Sticks in 20 minutes flat by car. 1.5 hours by bike, and about the same by mass transit
* Our NYS senator (Mark Grisanti) is head of the Environmental Commission, and has been working hard on the area
* Little to no antenna ordinances in most places (There are some, like Amherst)
* Buffalo has a reputation for being one of the most friendly places (It's all of WNY, for the most part really)

If the snow bothers you, to be honest, most other places get plenty more than we do. The summers are generally gorgeous, winters can be harsh, but usually aren't so bad.

We have two sports teams of note (Sabres and Bills), plus a minor league baseball (Bisons), a soccer team, and an avid roller derby following :)

Some of the most gorgeous scenery one can find in this region.

Cost of living is some of the lowest in the nation. Unemployment is on the low end as well.

Just, you know, food for thought.

[N7YA]

Why have you limited yourself to those two states?

I ask, because (This get's old I know), WNY fits the bill for everything you are looking for:

* Liberal-minded place
* You can go from Big City to Sticks in 20 minutes flat by car. 1.5 hours by bike, and about the same by mass transit
* Our NYS senator (Mark Grisanti) is head of the Environmental Commission, and has been working hard on the area
* Little to no antenna ordinances in most places (There are some, like Amherst)
* Buffalo has a reputation for being one of the most friendly places (It's all of WNY, for the most part really)

If the snow bothers you, to be honest, most other places get plenty more than we do. The summers are generally gorgeous, winters can be harsh, but usually aren't so bad.

We have two sports teams of note (Sabres and Bills), plus a minor league baseball (Bisons), a soccer team, and an avid roller derby following :)

Some of the most gorgeous scenery one can find in this region.

Cost of living is some of the lowest in the nation. Unemployment is on the low end as well.

Just, you know, food for thought.

Well, we simply started with those two states, were open to most northeastern states, and i do know that WNY is beautiful. Ive had my fill of CA, the west coast, really...and no TX! Just not for me. Snow doesnt bother me, its been a while but i grew up shovelling the shit so no worries, and as a Senators fan, going to Sabres home games would be interesting. Hmmm, ill throw it by my wife and see what she says. Thanks for the info!

[KC2UGV]

Well, we simply started with those two states, were open to most northeastern states, and i do know that WNY is beautiful. Ive had my fill of CA, the west coast, really...and no TX! Just not for me. Snow doesnt bother me, its been a while but i grew up shovelling the shit so no worries, and as a Senators fan, going to Sabres home games would be interesting. Hmmm, ill throw it by my wife and see what she says. Thanks for the info!

Sorry, misread your post (When you narrowed it down, you said pre-reqs, and not places) :)

[N7YA]

Sorry, misread your post (When you narrowed it down, you said pre-reqs, and not places) :)

In all fairness, i did say we narrowed it down to those two states, so you were right.

Theres 48 others....well, minus TX...and CA....and likely much of the midwest...and no west coast...ok, a FEW more states. Nothing against them, i just cant seee us in a few of those for any reason, a few others because they dont have what we want, and others because we havent really explored them as an option very well. Like i said, were just starting to toss this around.

[n2ize]

Why have you limited yourself to those two states?

I ask, because (This get's old I know), WNY fits the bill for everything you are looking for:

* Liberal-minded place
* You can go from Big City to Sticks in 20 minutes flat by car. 1.5 hours by bike, and about the same by mass transit
* Our NYS senator (Mark Grisanti) is head of the Environmental Commission, and has been working hard on the area
* Little to no antenna ordinances in most places (There are some, like Amherst)
* Buffalo has a reputation for being one of the most friendly places (It's all of WNY, for the most part really)

If the snow bothers you, to be honest, most other places get plenty more than we do. The summers are generally gorgeous, winters can be harsh, but usually aren't so bad.

We have two sports teams of note (Sabres and Bills), plus a minor league baseball (Bisons), a soccer team, and an avid roller derby following :)

Some of the most gorgeous scenery one can find in this region.

Cost of living is some of the lowest in the nation. Unemployment is on the low end as well.

Just, you know, food for thought.

Actually if you want to enjoy rural or "remote" living most of upstate New York fits the bill. In particular counties like Essex, Fulton, Hamilton and Washington counties which extend through much of the Adirondack region are vast, scenic, and quiet. When I passed though there last I felt as if I was passing through a remote part of Alaska. Friend of mine has a camp up there. He can stay up there for a month and encounter nary a soul.

[WØTKX]

Well, I do like Denver OK. Nederland is in the foothills, and it's pretty laid back. Ft. Collins? It's far less of a "cow town" than Greeley, and it's pretty nice. Boulder is pretty weird, and a bit crowded... but nice otherwise. CO Springs is awfully right wing in a lot of ways.

I bet you'd like Nederland CO a lot. Fairplay is up in the mountains, but it's decent there. Be prepared, this place is full of very active folks... always amazes me when I travel how much skinnier most folks are here. ;)

[N7YA]

Well, I do like Denver OK. Nederland is in the foothills, and it's pretty laid back. Ft. Collins? It's far less of a "cow town" than Greeley, and it's pretty nice. Boulder is pretty weird, and a bit crowded... but nice otherwise. CO Springs is awfully right wing in a lot of ways.

I bet you'd like Nederland CO a lot. Fairplay is up in the mountains, but it's decent there. Be prepared, this place is full of very active folks... always amazes me when I travel how much skinnier most folks are here. ;)

We did a couple of shows at Belly Up in Aspen a few years back and i was entranced with the place....until i looked at how much it costs to live there. Yikes! Ill have to look up Nederland and Fairplay, maybe take a roadie up that way to scout it out. I could stand to be a bit more active. Mountains and trees are a HUGE plus in my world...i bet the elevation is great for DXing too. As i mentioned, wind and snow doesnt bother me, i learned to drive on black ice in Alaska so it would be a case of relearning the winter ways (and taking a couple of seasons to thicken up my desert blood, when i moved here from AK, my blood was like tar!).

I have a buddy in Boulder who recently escaped this putrid, godforsaken pit of satans diarreah. He is a much happier man. By the way, check out this site, http://www.bestplaces.net/ ...type in your town name and see the stats. And just so you know what im talking about, type in Las Vegas, NV...i really hate it here, my soul dies a little every time i open the garage door.

[KC2UGV]

I was actually quite surprised to see Buffalo rank #2 here: http://www.bestplaces.net/docs/studi...te_cities.aspx

[KG4CGC]

I think you'll need to go across the border into Vancouver.