Finally got to the USS New Jersey

[W1GUH]

Now I know what a battleship is like. Well...the parts I could see. Worthwhile trip if you want to see a Battleship.

Best pic is that new avatar -- Stained glass of Nipper listening to "His Master's Voice" in what looked like a clock tower on the old RCA plant right next to the New Jersey. It's now L3 Communication.

And...as repeated all over the country...the area where the ship is berthed is acres and acres of crumbling factories. The "park" itself is obviously "new development" of an "eyesore." Wonder what kind of great things were wiped out? What great art was gestating there? How many poor people were displaced?

[W3WN]

If that's the building I think it is, it's one of the old RCA Tube manufacturing facilities. My dad worked there as a ceramics engineer (even though he was based at another plant).

He once got a letter from David Sarnoff himself (allegedly), congratulating him for being part of the team that had developed some new technology that RCA had gotten a patent for, thanking him for his hard work and best wishes for his continued work for the company in the future.

The letter came 6 months after the process had been shipped overseas, and Dad had been laid off.

[W1GUH]

If that's the building I think it is, it's one of the old RCA Tube manufacturing facilities. My dad worked there as a ceramics engineer (even though he was based at another plant).

He once got a letter from David Sarnoff himself (allegedly), congratulating him for being part of the team that had developed some new technology that RCA had gotten a patent for, thanking him for his hard work and best wishes for his continued work for the company in the future.

The letter came 6 months after the process had been shipped overseas, and Dad had been laid off.

Being in that business so long, I've seen that happen over and over and over. Before I read the last sentence I was forming the question, "Did he get any money?", probably knowing full well the answer you supplied in the last sentence.

This is one of the ways that that business can really, really suck at times.

[W5GA]

I remember the day one of the battlewagons pulled in to San Diego for the first time since Vietnam, this would have been at some point in the eighties. The only time I've ever seen traffic on I-5 stopped without a traffic problem of some sort. Much more impressive visually than an aircraft carrier.

[NQ6U]

I remember the day one of the battlewagons pulled in to San Diego for the first time since Vietnam, this would have been at some point in the eighties. The only time I've ever seen traffic on I-5 stopped without a traffic problem of some sort. Much more impressive visually than an aircraft carrier.

Much more vulnerable, too. They are fascinating ships, but of a bygone era. They wouldn't last long in modern warfare where a (relatively) cheap air-launched missile could send it to the bottom in a matter of minutes.

[W1GUH]

Much more vulnerable, too. They are fascinating ships, but of a bygone era. They wouldn't last long in modern warfare where a (relatively) cheap air-launched missile could send it to the bottom in a matter of minutes.

Especially after Maggie's PMS (or attempt to screw ronnie), that is, the Falklands war, that sure would appear to be the case. We saw it happen in the S. Atlantic. But it's very possible that the defensive systems on something like the New Jersey would alter that equation. Don't really know.

[W5GA]

Especially after Maggie's PMS (or attempt to screw ronnie), that is, the Falklands war, that sure would appear to be the case. We saw it happen in the S. Atlantic. But it's very possible that the defensive systems on something like the New Jersey would alter that equation. Don't really know.

The H.M.S. Sheffield was mostly aluminum, and was a destroyer (think small). She wasn't sunk because of the awesome firepower of the Exocet missle...it never exploded. It did start a really nasty fuel oil fire after piercing the Sheffields completely unarmored side, and that was what did the Sheffield in.

The ARA General Belgrano was the former U.S.S. Phoenix CL-46, a pre-WWII era light cruiser that entered the fleet in 1938. She is the only ship ever to have been sunk as a result of warfare by a nuclear submarine.

An Iowa class battle ship would only need a few gallons of paint for repairs after an Exocet missle hit. These ships were designed to survive combat with other ships having 16" guns (HE projectile weighing 2300 pounds, AP projectile was 2700 lbs.) They were also designed to survive 6 simultaneous Mk 14 torpedo hits per side.

[kb2crk]

The H.M.S. Sheffield was mostly aluminum, and was a destroyer (think small). She wasn't sunk because of the awesome firepower of the Exocet missle...it never exploded. It did start a really nasty fuel oil fire after piercing the Sheffields completely unarmored side, and that was what did the Sheffield in.

The ARA General Belgrano was the former U.S.S. Phoenix CL-46, a pre-WWII era light cruiser that entered the fleet in 1938. She is the only ship ever to have been sunk as a result of warfare by a nuclear submarine.

An Iowa class battle ship would only need a few gallons of paint for repairs after an Exocet missle hit. These ships were designed to survive combat with other ships having 16" guns (HE projectile weighing 2300 pounds, AP projectile was 2700 lbs.) They were also designed to survive 6 simultaneous Mk 14 torpedo hits per side.

during operation desert storm an Iowa class battleship was struck by an exocet missile. no one was injured and it took about 20 minutes to repair the damage to the paint.

[N8GAV]

We are likely still paying all that money spent back in the 80's to put them battle wagons back to sea and for what? Funny thing is Congress still holds one in mothball for the Navy Reserve Fleet, 'In Case It Is Needed," and I ask again for what?

[kb2vxa]

"They wouldn't last long in modern warfare where a (relatively) cheap air-launched missile could send it to the bottom in a matter of minutes."

The last refit of the New Jersey took that into account, it has two radar based computer driven fire control MK 15 Phalanx guns and this is one of them.