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    I've only been doing wireframes in Sketchup, so far. And the lo res rendering such as it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WØTKX View Post
    I've only been doing wireframes in Sketchup, so far. And the lo res rendering such as it is.

    Used to do 3DS Max, and Poser. They spoiled me.
    My question may have been incomplete. I was talking about lighting.

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    How close is PS Elements 9 to its big brother in terms of image manipulation? Does it have those curves you can adjust? Does it have selective color? Will it do .CR2 files?
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    Quote Originally Posted by W1GUH View Post
    How close is PS Elements 9 to its big brother in terms of image manipulation? Does it have those curves you can adjust? Does it have selective color? Will it do .CR2 files?
    I don't know what you mean by "selective color." Elements offers a good array of tools, but it is not PhotoShop and it lacks the sophistication that PS offers. I have a friend who shoots with a Pentax digital SLR and she loves Elements and does a lot of good work using it. You might also investigate The Gimp, which is open-source and available for Linux as well as Win.

    I don't believe that Elements will manipulate raw files, but I am not sure. If you have a Canon camera, you should have the raw-file manipulation (DPP?) software that came with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by W3MIV View Post
    I don't know what you mean by "selective color." Elements offers a good array of tools, but it is not PhotoShop and it lacks the sophistication that PS offers. I have a friend who shoots with a Pentax digital SLR and she loves Elements and does a lot of good work using it. You might also investigate The Gimp, which is open-source and available for Linux as well as Win.

    I don't believe that Elements will manipulate raw files, but I am not sure. If you have a Canon camera, you should have the raw-file manipulation (DPP?) software that came with it.
    "...but it is not PhotoShop and it lacks the sophistication that PS offers. " That's what I remember from when I was using it. And, yes, the software that came with my G10 will convert .CR2 files to .TIF's. But what pain, it's an extra step, but at least you had the menu option of "Process in PhotoShop." IIRC, when I was investigating this there was a plug-in for PS for .CR2 files; bet that's NOT in Elements. Come to think of it, back when its price was "reasonable", I loved Paint Shop Pro. It had good image fix-up stuff and had great browsers for photos.

    Had gimp for the "other" OS and I believe it's the one that DID have curves for manipulation. But it had a very strange UI that I'm not sure is worth the trouble of learning, at least for casual stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by W3MIV View Post

    I don't believe that Elements will manipulate raw files, but I am not sure. If you have a Canon camera, you should have the raw-file manipulation (DPP?) software that came with it.
    It does.. kinda. Been awhile, but seems like it would load it in, you can manipulate the chroma, color and all that, then save it in whatever (TIFF, PSD etc) and edit it.

    This might have been using the Pentax raw format.
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    Usually you will need to use the software that came with the camera to convert the manufactures propriety raw format. It is different for each brand. Use the software to convert to .tif and then you can work it in PS and save it as whatever you want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KG4CGC View Post
    Usually you will need to use the software that came with the camera to convert the manufactures propriety raw format. It is different for each brand. Use the software to convert to .tif and then you can work it in PS and save it as whatever you want.
    PhotoShop will handle just about any raw file out there, including the new open-source DNG raw files.. A much less expensive alternative for handling raw files is ACDSee Pro, which costs about a hundred bucks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by W3MIV View Post
    PhotoShop will handle just about any raw file out there, including the new open-source DNG raw files.. A much less expensive alternative for handling raw files is ACDSee Pro, which costs about a hundred bucks.
    I guess the plug-ins are standard now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by W3MIV View Post
    PhotoShop will handle just about any raw file out there, including the new open-source DNG raw files.. A much less expensive alternative for handling raw files is ACDSee Pro, which costs about a hundred bucks.
    But with a bad pun in the product name.....

    But seriously, I just checked out the lasts PSP & it's price has come down and claims RAW capability. Gonna have to download the free trial (Ah, but gone are the days of "You are on day 279 of your 30 day free trial" I think).
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