Hello.
First off, 9X19 is nothing new.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9x19mm_Parabellum
But as far as the pistol goes, a disaster in the making.
It has no safety, and a light trigger pull?
All the rest, RFID, chemical bond, that type of thing, can be added to pretty much any weapon.
The trick of old was to fabricate a firing pin that was grooved at the striking surface.
Between the ballistics proper and the unique signature of the firing pin both the bullet and casing could be identified.
Police here don't pull and wave their pistol at any time they stop people Rudy, so stop making assumptions.
When an officer draws his weapon it needs to be serious, ( Been in armed Service myself here, Her Majesties Customs) and we have the same drill as the cops here have.
Police have to certify 6 times a year for the gun, will get extra training when they get the new pistol, and will be damned sure there is no safety to forget in the heat of an altercation if they have to fire.
Revolvers don't come with safety catches as well...
Don't pick out on some demands, the new gun has to fulfil ALL demands as stated by our Police.
Yep, we know the parabellum is not new, I've been a owner of guns and avid shooter most of my life, carried guns in Service, as did my Father who was for 40 years long a cop.
I don't think you can teach me anything new here, after reading some of your posts.
I go through 8 - 10.000 rounds a year here, revolver, pistols Carbine and rifles.
Goodbye ;)
"If the Republicans will stop telling lies about the Democrats, we will stop
telling the truth about them." - Adlai Stevenson (1900-1965)
“I’m not liberal/conservative, I’m anti-idiotarian.”
At some point in the last 20 years, the left moved to the center, and the right moved into a mental institution
It's a DA Rudy Poody.
Hello.
99% of all accidental discharge incidents happen when the officer does not have his hand on the weapon.
Again, 99% of all AD incidents happen without a finger on the weapon.
I was in a car taking my driving test in Texas when I was a first had witness to an AD.
The driving exam was being done with a DPS trooper who got his holster snagged on the seatbelt and tried to pull it free while seated and not releasing the seatbelt.
This was a car with the seatbelts mounted to the door so you would not need to attach it, a motor would simply move it out of the way.
The second AD I saw was when I was working jail guard/bus driver.
The guard was securing his weapon in the lockbox when it went off, no one has ever come up with a good explanation as to what happened.
But, the weapon was inside the lockbox and discharged as the door was being closed.
The 1911 has several safety features as a direct response to the number of accidents with revolvers, perhaps overkill, but who knows?
A single action can be safer than a double action as there is one more step prior to firing.
But what do I know, only that every current military firearm has a safety on it.
Even the pump action riot gun has a safety.
M-203 grenade launcher?
As unlikely as it would be for that thing to be carried loaded, it has a safety.
Even the flare gun has a safety!
From Rudy?? Nah...Originally Posted by W3MIV
All the world’s a stage, but obviously the play is unrehearsed and everybody is ad-libbing his lines. Maybe that’s why it’s hard to tell if we’re living in a tragedy or a farce.
Hello.
The Dutch pistol does have a safety, it is electronic.
What is not clear is that there is no "Safety catch" and what that means.
The pistol does have a manual slide lock as well as the electronic interlock.
I'll try to explain.....
Requirements:
only permissible controls are trigger, magazine catch and hold open/slide release
may not have a safety catch
must be able to fire with the magazine removed
the portion of the trigger against which the finger rests during shooting may not consist of multiple parts
magazine capacity at least 15 rounds
trigger pressure must be the same from shot to shot, and the lighter the better
there must be at least 3 different sizes of grip or grip inserts available
the magazine catch must be accessible from both sides, or be able to be switched for left-handers
the slide release/hold open must be accessible from both sides
each weapon must contain an RFID chip containing the weapons details
caliber 9 x 19 mm
picatinny rail on the frame
The RFID chip is no electronic lock, it just holds the data of the gun so it can be read out in case it was stolen/lost and is traceable by other means as the serial number, additional data can be put into the chip like the details from the officer that carries the weapon, the police station etc....and can be read out from yards distance if need be....take a guess for what.
RFID:
Radio-frequency identification (RFID) is a technology that uses communication via radio waves to exchange data between a reader and an electronic tag attached to an object, for the purpose of identification and tracking. Some tags can be read from several meters away and beyond the line of sight of the reader. The application of bulk reading enables an almost parallel reading of tags.
No, it does NOT have a safety catch, or electronic or otherwise in the trigger or whatever means.'
It can be fired with a round in the chamber even if the magazine is removed, or an crook gets the magazine out in a struggle, the officer still can fire one shot at him.
The new holsters will cover the trigger and trigger guard so that no accidental discharges are possible if the weapon is snagged.
No safety means that officers in the heat of an altercation cannot forget to release the safety catch and the weapon does not fire when that is needed.
And yes, it does happen....
Mandatory training and firing is checked by safety officers, failing to perform means no pistol desk work and more time on the training lanes till the safety officer is satisfied you can go back on the street safely with the gun.
Minimal training courses 6 times a year, police is allowed to use it in the shooting club if he/she is a member.
Again, a lot of assumptions without base.
I've been in the position i had to use my weapon as Officer, not something i like, but you DO react different in that situation as being relaxed on the firing range happily popping off at a stationary target that does not form a threat or fires back at you.
Even serious training in the movie screened firing range where you get all kinds of situations thrown at you to react on will not completely train you for a real situation.
I've been there, done it, got the full investigation and came out good.
But it is a life changing event.
Last edited by PA5COR; 01-28-2011 at 05:38 PM.
"If the Republicans will stop telling lies about the Democrats, we will stop
telling the truth about them." - Adlai Stevenson (1900-1965)
“I’m not liberal/conservative, I’m anti-idiotarian.”
At some point in the last 20 years, the left moved to the center, and the right moved into a mental institution
Cowthief... hang it up. Your statements have NO basis.
Encrypt everything. Even if you have nothing to hide. It increases the noise floor.
Has the Glock two piece trigger been known to restrict firing in other than freak incidents?
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