New Dutch Policepistol

[PA5COR]

That's the one, Sig Sauer adapted for the Dutch police numbering 45000 of them for 800 Euros each.
Sig Sauer PPNL (Police Pistol Netherlands), a version of the SIG Sauer P250 DC designed for the Dutch police force.
It will replace the old Walther P5 and total replacement is ready at the end of 2013.

A new cartridge, called the 9x19mm NP (Netherlands Police), has been developed for their future service weapon. The 9mm NP features a 94 grain (6.1 gram) solid copper hollow point bullet with a plastic cap inserted into the hollow.

The plastic insert is to ensure that the hollow point does not get snagged with any cloth, jacket etc before striking the target, this ensures that the bullet expands properly upon impact. JHP often fail to expand properly when penetrating through thick clothes etc.

The requirements were these;

only permissible controls are trigger, magazine catch and hold open/slide release
may not have a safety catch
must be able to fire with the magazine removed
the portion of the trigger against which the finger rests during shooting may not consist of multiple parts
magazine capacity at least 15 rounds
trigger pressure must be the same from shot to shot, and the lighter the better
there must be at least 3 different sizes of grip or grip inserts available
the magazine catch must be accessible from both sides, or be able to be switched for left-handers
the slide release/hold open must be accessible from both sides
each weapon must contain an RFID chip containing the weapons details
caliber 9 x 19 mm
picatinny rail on the frame

Problem was that no off-the-shelf pistol fulfills these requirements so it had to be a new design and several manufacturers were in the race, at the end Sig-Sauer won with the above model and by 2013 all coppers will have their new side arms.


A new "Royal" orange plastic tip cartridge, called the 9x19mm Action NP (Netherlands Police), has been developed by RUAG (CH) for their new service weapon. The 9mm NP features a 94 grain (6.1 gram) solid copper hollow point bullet with a plastic cap inserted into the hollow. The primer of these cartridges has a special forensic additive to be able to identify the gun it was fired with.

http://www.security-technologynews.c...forcement.html
More about the ammo.
1378 FPS out of a 3.9″ barrel equals 396 ft/lbs of muzzle energy.

The new pistol is based on this one:
http://www.sigsauer.de/index.php?id=319&lang=en

[W3MIV]

Intelligent design. The very light bullet will possess deadly energy up close, but lose power and speed very quickly, thus reducing the potential for ricochets and collateral damage from stray shots. Damn Dutch are smarter'n they look. ;)

[KC2UGV]

Intelligent design. The very light bullet will possess deadly energy up close, but lose power and speed very quickly, thus reducing the potential for ricochets and collateral damage from stray shots. Damn Dutch are smarter'n they look. ;)

It's that socialism at work

[PA5COR]

The police here has been experimenting a lot with the old Action Geschoss 1-5 generations.
Most firefights take place in densely populated area's and close by.
Good penetration of metal objects ( 5 plates i saw 1 mm thick) good penetration and almost no change in trajectory after glass windows etc.
The 9 mm round will expand to 15 mm in a body/ballistic gel.

I fired a few P5's and Glocks from the police here, the P5 is now really end of lifetime, worn, and outdated with only 8 rounds capacity, and for woman no change in grip, for smaller hands just too bulky.

If i remember correct, wasn't there a similar round produced in the USA?
Personally i'm no fan of ANY 9mm pistol/revolver, i prefer the .357 Magnum in my S&W686 or Desert Eagle.
But then, the demands of the police are different as mine...

I saw my stiff reloaded .357M rounds penetrate a 1/2 inch metal plate from the D.E.
Also solid copper 158 grain rounds.

We have a policewoman at our club, when she gets her's i'll report back after firing it ;)

[W5GA]

If i remember correct, wasn't there a similar round produced in the USA?
Personally i'm no fan of ANY 9mm pistol/revolver, i prefer the .357 Magnum in my S&W686 or Desert Eagle.
But then, the demands of the police are different as mine...

Yes there was, but it's been quite a while back. It was tried with the bullets available at the time, but never really caught on as it was found lacking. With modern bullets, who knows.

[N8YX]

Might be an alternative to the M9/92FS setup which 'DSG has been contemplating...

[PA5COR]

I had the Baretta 92FS, sold it as fast as i could.....

[W5GA]

I had the Baretta 92FS, sold it as fast as i could.....

What didn't you like about it?

[W3MIV]

Beretta's 92, in its military iteration as the M9, has shown itself to be an exemplary military handgun. At Camp Perry, it is showing itself to be an exemplary target pistol, as well, though with modifications that would render it useless in the field (the same, in fact, goes for the venerable 1911A1).

I don't like the 9mm NATO cartridge. In that pistol, I prefer the .40S&W.

[PA5COR]

Within 1500 rounds the trigger spring broke, the firing pin spring went south, and i had the ramp polished to stop faiiliures of loading several different types of bullets.
Might have been exemplary, but it was enough for me, getting an good offer after the repairs i ditched it.
Besides, i already had 2 fine working handguns, i completed the Desert Eagle and the S&W 686 with a Walther GSP in .22 LR.
The S&W revolvers are quite good, i had the 629 Classic DX factory tuned .44 Magnum, and won a gaggle of prizes with it.
Sold it to my brother in law, he was crazy for it, and i needed another challenge, what became the Beretta 92FS.....:roll:.

All the calibers exept of course the .22 LR are reloads, all very carefully within specs, i never dick around reloading, nor with shooting.
Only high quality components are used reloading, i reload for being able to adjust for accuracy, not to save money.