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    Do They have Subways in California ?

    Well, do they ? When i was watching the 1972 movie Dirty Harry there is a point where he gets on to some kind of a subway. Well, do they punk ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by n2ize View Post
    Well, do they ? When i was watching the 1972 movie Dirty Harry there is a point where he gets on to some kind of a subway. Well, do they punk ?
    I didn't realize that BART was that old , but the Bay Area Rapid Transit opened in '72 , and does indeed have some underground sections .
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    Quote Originally Posted by n2ize View Post
    Well, do they ? When i was watching the 1972 movie Dirty Harry there is a point where he gets on to some kind of a subway. Well, do they punk ?
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    Dirty Harry took place in San Francisco, which is considered to be Northern California*. San Francisco does indeed have subways, both for BART and the Municipal Railway (known as the MUNI). Los Angeles and even San Diego have subways of a sort, but nothing as extensive as in S.F.


    *Geographically speaking, San Francisco is really in central California but any native Golden State resident would consider Central California to be the area around Santa Maria. Go figure.

    Officially, Southern California consists of the state's southernmost ten counties. If you look at a map, you'll see the northern boundaries of those counties from a straight east-west line that's considered the demarcation between Northern and Southern CA.
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    Okay, sounds interesting. So, I'd imagine that they don't have an extensive underground system as we have here in NY. Of course our system also has underground and, in the outer boroughs above ground sections , Which we call "the El".
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    Quote Originally Posted by n2ize View Post
    Okay, sounds interesting. So, I'd imagine that they don't have an extensive underground system as we have here in NY. Of course our system also has underground and, in the outer boroughs above ground sections , Which we call "the El".
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    104 total: The A-line from Fremont to Lake Merritt, 23.8 miles; the M, W and Y-line from Oakland West to Millbrae, 27 miles; the R-line from Richmond to MacArthur, 10.6 miles; the C-line from Pittsburg/Bay Point to Rockridge, 29.3 miles; and the L-line Dublin/Pleasanton to Bay Fair, 10 miles. There are approximately 37 miles of track through subways and tunnels, 23 miles of aerial track and 44 of surface track (four additional miles of double track in subways and four underground stations for the S.F. Municipal Railway were constructed by BART as specified by the original 1962 plan).

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    Quote Originally Posted by n2ize View Post
    Okay, sounds interesting. So, I'd imagine that they don't have an extensive underground system as we have here in NY. Of course our system also has underground and, in the outer boroughs above ground sections , Which we call "the El".
    No, San Francisco covers a much smaller land area than NYC; it's subways are all east of the neighborhood known as "West Portal," at the western exit of the Twin Peaks Tunnel. The rest of the city has extensive electric rail and trolley (electric) bus coverage. There are diesel busses too but they don't work as well on the hills as the trolley busses do.

    When I was growing up, the famous cable cars were considered to be just another part of the mass transit system but they're strictly for the tourists now.
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    All the world’s a stage, but obviously the play is unrehearsed and everybody is ad-libbing his lines. Maybe that’s why it’s hard to tell if we’re living in a tragedy or a farce.

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    Hello.

    Chicago has quite a bit of underground track as well and 'Frisco has elevated sections.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KJ6BSO View Post
    No, San Francisco covers a much smaller land area than NYC; it's subways are all east of the neighborhood known as "West Portal," at the western exit of the Twin Peaks Tunnel. The rest of the city has extensive electric rail and trolley (electric) bus coverage. There are diesel busses too but they don't work as well on the hills as the trolley busses do.

    When I was growing up, the famous cable cars were considered to be just another part of the mass transit system but they're strictly for the tourists now.
    I'd love to visit Frisco one of these days. Sounds like a fascinating city. Here in NY we used to have a trolley system. But sadly they destroyed it when Robert Moses and busses came to dominate the area. They burned all the old trolley cars to make sure they would never again run in NY. The oil companies loved it. I remember as a kid seeing the old trolley tracks on some of the streets. Fortunately we still have our subways which are still a major part of our transportation system.
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    You'd probably enjoy it. San Francisco and New York have a very similar feeling about them. S.F. is a very compact city, the second-most densely populated large city in the United States after NYC, and land has always been at a premium there just as it is in Manhattan. As a result, they've built upwards in the same way as in NYC has.

    S.F. was one of the few places that was wise to the scam of replacing electric street cars with busses. They've maintained an extensive light rail system throughout most the 20th century and, as a result, a lot of San Franciscans don't even own cars. They also have something I've not seen anywhere else--trolley busses. They're rubber-tired vehicles but they're powered from an overhead electric caternary system just like a street car. Very cool idea, much better than diesel busses, which have a hard time negotiating the hills there. Trolley busses are cheaper to implement than light rail too, since there's no trackage to install and there's less disruption to neighborhoods.

    Oh, yeah, one more thing: Since San Francisco was originally populated by Yankees, native San Franciscans have an accent much like that of New Yorkers. You'll feel right at home.
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    All the world’s a stage, but obviously the play is unrehearsed and everybody is ad-libbing his lines. Maybe that’s why it’s hard to tell if we’re living in a tragedy or a farce.

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